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[17:37] guys! i am compiling scummvm with mingw, and everything is fine, the thing compiles, except it dies at linking with this: [17:37] LINK scummvm.exe [17:37] scummvmwinres.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized [17:37] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [17:37] make: *** [scummvm.exe] Error 1 [17:37] what could cause that? (and sorry for the noob question) [17:38] having the wrong windres in your path (or having not deleted an old scummvmwinres.o before you started your build) [17:42] ah, thanks :) [17:43] btw is there a way to clear up previous builds? [17:43] make clean [17:43] oh, thanks [17:44] or "make distclean" if you also want to remove the saved configuration (you'll need to run configure again then) [17:44] splendid :) you guys are my heroes [17:45] LordHoto (~loom@unaffiliated/lordhoto) left irc: Quit: bbl [18:04] Begasus (~Begas_@d54c05398.access.telenet.be) joined #scummvm. [18:04] #scummvm: mode change '+v Begasus' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:06] Schnaks (~Schnaks@p4FC49A79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #scummvm. [18:09] criezy (~criezy@host81-157-13-186.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) joined #scummvm. [18:09] #scummvm: mode change '+o criezy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:11] Humble Humongous Bundle? https://www.humblebundle.com/flash Wonder if these releases use ScummVM [18:12] (The non-Steam copies, I mean) [18:12] Begasus (~Begas_@d54c05398.access.telenet.be) left irc: Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred! [18:12] frankyboy_ (~franky@ppp91-77-55-176.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #scummvm. [18:12] looks like the non-steam copies aren't cross-platform [18:13] so I'd guess not [18:14] Wouldn't make much sense to have another different release? [18:15] Why add additional costs to it? [18:15] Unless... you're just releasing the original exes [18:15] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@dslb-084-060-116-121.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:17] Schnaks (~Schnaks@p4FC49A79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [18:18] hmm [18:18] edheldil_ (~edheldil@ip-78-45-160-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) joined #scummvm. [18:18] edheldil_ (~edheldil@ip-78-45-160-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:18] i should really buy them [18:18] RUBICN64 (~Android@2601:7:9480:149:208:ff:fe00:412a) joined #scummvm. [18:18] are this realeses work with scummvm? [18:19] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@dslb-084-060-116-121.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [18:19] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@dslb-084-060-116-121.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:19] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@dslb-084-060-116-121.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. 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(I've seen a few of those games that start fine without Steam running) [18:28] Being on steam doesn't equate to having Steam DRM. Having Steam DRM does also not remove the option of additional DRM, like SecuROM. [18:29] yeah, some publishers choose to double- or even triple-up on DRM [18:29] Why bother though, presumably beyond some point you're just making life harder for the people that buy the game. [18:30] yes, I would guess what somaen said [18:30] Assuming they care enough to give a crap about that fact. [18:30] somaen, cumbersome DRM never seems to be a concern for publishers :( [18:31] Well, I can see the argument for DRM on launch [18:31] imo DRM only stops the most casual of piracy (eg lending your friend a disc) [18:31] and since the Steam releases are scummvm they won't be DRMed post-install. [18:31] Since from what I've heard, most of the money is gained just after release, so delaying the pirates a day extra is well worth it. [18:31] but the publishers need to show their investors that they are actively working against the pirates, even though it's almost completely ineffectual [18:32] yes, if you remove your idiotic DRM after a few weeks then all is forgiven. [18:32] Unless of course you take on some DRM that gives your users such a bad time that they flee wholesale. [18:32] If only LucasArts had done something sensible like that. [18:32] Didn't The Witcher 2 do something like that? [18:32] DRM at launch, then retroactively removed after a while. [18:33] tkyimk (~jappi@dslb-092-078-157-115.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:33] CD Projekt RED are very pro-consumer, they've done a lot of nice stuff like give away GoG copies of the Witcher games to people who owned it on Steam [18:34] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@dslb-084-060-116-121.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [18:34] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@dslb-084-060-116-121.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:34] Too bad about the Linux "port". Sigh. [18:34] yeah, that's true [18:34] Anyhow, unless they've added DRM inside ScummVM, or something odd like a virtual filesystem fed into ScummVM, you can in any case just plug in your favourite build of ScummVM after downloading. [18:35] fydo: The fact that the rest of the business went over the top for a while on the DRM, was probably good for business for CD Projekt RED. [18:35] Since you need someone doing heavy DRM to be able to market "DRM Free" [18:35] indeed! [18:36] txovwa (~jappi@dslb-088-075-127-048.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [18:37] Some copy protections also wreak havoc on wine/VM-based solutions for playing old games. [18:38] Which makes me grumble a bit, when the game is 10+ years old. [18:39] Oh well, I've got a backlog longer than is sane of games I've bought and not yet gotten to play, so I guess I should thank them. [18:42] Wish there were even more programs out there like ScummVM, Exult or OpenMW. [18:43] txovwa (~jappi@dslb-088-075-127-048.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [18:43] ajax16384 (~User@ip6.net177.n37.ru) joined #scummvm. [18:43] #scummvm: mode change '+o ajax16384' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:46] sdttpe (~jappi@dslb-088-075-169-083.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [18:48] SylvainTV (~SylvainTV@ALille-653-1-397-215.w92-147.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #scummvm. [18:48] #scummvm: mode change '+o SylvainTV' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:49] $20 for the whole pack of 28 titles, should have waited, eh wjp? [18:50] Wishmaster (~Wishmaste@dslb-084-060-116-121.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. 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I only have one or two of those [22:13] a bit like me [22:14] one or two copies of each title :P [22:14] _marc` (~marc@p20030046082026FCA05A6D1421EC6953.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [22:14] you had me wondering for a second there :-) [22:17] Bah, it's not my fault, my son loves those titles [22:18] Javacat (~Javacat@unaffiliated/javacat) joined #scummvm. [22:20] a convenient excuse [22:20] geep (~JoeBelow@216.185.241.19) joined #scummvm. [22:32] yes :D [22:43] MrSiggler (~textual@blk-89-213-45.eastlink.ca) left irc: Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz& [22:45] surix (cdcb6877@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.203.104.119) left irc: Quit: Page closed [22:50] MrSiggler (~textual@blk-89-213-45.eastlink.ca) joined #scummvm. [22:53] WooShell (woo@37-5-216-113-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Quit: Walking upside down in the sky, between the satellites passing by. Gliding along the black rainbow, I fly away with my shadow. 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