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[07:38] hello there stranger [07:38] Strangerke [07:38] Nick change: echelog-1` -> echelog-1 [07:38] echelog-1 (~echelog-1@108.61.103.42) left irc: Excess Flood [07:39] echelog-1 (~echelog-1@108.61.103.42) joined #scummvm. [07:43] ajax16384 (~User@ip138.net138.n37.ru) joined #scummvm. [07:43] #scummvm: mode change '+o ajax16384' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [07:48] o/ [07:57] oh, I did not know the student working on Director quit. Why? [07:59] Harekiet (~harekiet@kittens.harekiet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [07:59] uruk-hai (~Peter@catv-89-133-19-143.catv.broadband.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:59] Cruel` (~cruel@173-169-129-195.res.bhn.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:10] Harekiet (~harekiet@kittens.harekiet.com) joined #scummvm. [08:13] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:22] t0by (~t0by@host176-243-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:24] t0by (~t0by@host176-243-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #scummvm. [08:24] #scummvm: mode change '+v t0by' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:32] somaen: thanks for reviewing my PR a couple days ago. I'm still super swamped, I'll address your concerns sometime before, er... the end of summer. [08:34] L0ngcat: don't know... I only noticed he has quit as sev wrote it in the PR [08:34] rootfather: I was thinking there was a long time since the last Planet post from him [08:38] what [08:38] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [08:38] Director guy quit? [08:38] noes [08:41] I see blorente is making progress, though [08:42] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@x4d03f065.dyn.telefonica.de) joined #scummvm. [08:42] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@x4d03f065.dyn.telefonica.de) left irc: Changing host [08:42] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@scummvm/undead/m-kiewitz) joined #scummvm. [08:42] #scummvm: mode change '+o m_kiewitz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:42] _sev is the new Director guy, apparently. I see no downside [08:43] I mean, he's no spielberg [08:44] L0ngcat, where is this PR thing you mention? [08:44] ah nvm [08:44] What the hell. [08:45] https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/pull/787 [08:45] fuzzie, sev_: swamped and all but I would love to help *sometime*. If you feel like subcontracting some grunt work to me... [08:45] t0by: I am *also* swamped, so [08:46] That would work out perfectly [08:46] you'd do the thinking and I'd do the grunt work, sometime. [08:46] super hard graduation date is August 16th or so, which cannot possibly slip by more than a few days [08:46] Wooo [08:46] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) joined #scummvm. [08:46] We are about to have a doctor fuzzie, eh? [08:46] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) joined #scummvm. [08:46] no, I am stilll msc :( [08:47] master fuzzie [08:47] jammm (~jam@27.58.37.38) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:47] just not good at graduating. [08:47] (although technically the msc is on-time, I guess) [08:47] "Just call my name, cause I'll hear you screaaaaaam!" [08:47] (sorry.) [08:48] break a leg, fuzzie [08:50] anyway, I don't think I'll be able to F5 like crazy on engines/director and keep an eye myself for quite a while [08:51] *but* if you think you see an isolated task you can offload to me [08:51] please by all means say so [08:51] I hope Iskrich is okay, though [08:53] By the way, I can't wait for RichieSams to pop by in here [08:53] he's been my guest for a couple of days last week [08:53] i traumatized the hell out of him. [08:53] har har [08:53] Action: t0by does evil laugh [08:59] LePhilousophe (valemboi20@amsn/developer/lephilousophe) joined #scummvm. [09:01] yeah I really hope the director engine will be finished by the devs :P [09:01] maybe I should start a bounty [09:01] "make "Masters of the Elements" fully playable and receive a cookie" [09:09] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:09] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) joined #scummvm. [09:15] Lightkey (~jonas@p200300764C08986722CF30FFFE083718.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [09:16] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:18] or blackmail. [09:21] DrMcCoy (~drmccoy@scummvm/undead/drmccoy) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:21] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) joined #scummvm. [09:28] Lightkey (~jonas@p200300764C08983222CF30FFFE083718.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #scummvm. [09:39] _sev (~sev@scummvm/undead/sev) joined #scummvm. [09:39] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [09:40] DrMcCoy (~drmccoy@scummvm/undead/drmccoy) joined #scummvm. 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[10:37] Action: L0ngcat is at work [10:37] L0ngcat: JMP and Nine are more important maybe... but that melements game is one of my Top Notch Memorable Childhood Games of all Times (TNMCGoaT) [10:38] blorente: more in a "sigh..." way [10:38] thankfully, everyone else is on vacation, so I can waste time on IRC:P [10:38] :P [10:38] I don't have internet access at work [10:38] rootfather i'm sorry then :( [10:38] but my work is in no way IT related, so... [10:38] blorente: it's not that bad acutally [10:39] That's the attitude [10:40] What doyou do? If you don't mind me asking [10:41] got curious myself [10:41] I'm an exhibition architect if anyone is curious :P [10:41] working at a retirement home [10:42] cu later, guys [10:42] Cu :) have a nice day [10:42] cu [10:43] L0ngcat that sounds interesting. Is it like for museums or something of the sort? [10:55] speaking of museums [10:56] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:56] anybody in here happens to have a spare serial modem he/she'd be willing to part with for a modest sum of money? [10:56] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) joined #scummvm. [10:56] I figured I'd ask since this chan has the highest density of decrepit hardware on the whole of IRC. [10:57] even 28k, whatever, I really only care about its fax-receiving capabilities. [10:58] (I'm trying to cobble together a fax server out of a spare mobo and disk for my mother's to use) [10:59] Pick up some old laptop, lot's still with a modem jack [10:59] t0by. I'm actually going bavk home right now to my parents. I can look [10:59] DrMcCoy (~drmccoy@scummvm/undead/drmccoy) left irc: Quit: He's dead, Jim [11:00] jammm (~jam@27.58.37.38) joined #scummvm. [11:00] I'll tell you in the evenig [11:00] DrMcCoy (~drmccoy@scummvm/undead/drmccoy) joined #scummvm. [11:00] #scummvm: mode change '+o DrMcCoy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:00] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:01] Harekiet, yes, but linmodem drivers are unmantained since... the past decade, basically [11:01] I spend a couple nights trying to compile them against kernel v3, then got fed up. [11:01] blorente, thanks, you are a dear [11:01] brb [11:06] t0by, do you have a cashconverters or similar nearby? Mine had some really cheap modems (and switches, routers...) [11:06] ah kernels [11:08] We had some old dell at the office that would do the fax with builtin windows software, but now the voip thing also does faxes [11:26] _sev_ (~sev@194.44.32.131) joined #scummvm. [11:26] _sev_ (~sev@194.44.32.131) left irc: Changing host [11:26] _sev_ (~sev@scummvm/undead/sev) joined #scummvm. [11:26] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev_' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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I have worked with historical museums as well, but I am still working on my architecture degree (one year left) [11:53] L0ngcat that is awesome :) [11:54] blorente: I am glad someone thinks so :) Let me know if you are ever in Oslo, and I will give you a tour [11:57] L0ngcat don't say it too loud, I might take you up on that ;) [11:59] Mia (~Mia@unaffiliated/mia) joined #scummvm. [12:14] blorente (~blorente@90.174.2.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [12:34] uruk-hai (~Peter@catv-89-133-19-143.catv.broadband.hu) joined #scummvm. [12:34] #scummvm: mode change '+o uruk-hai' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:35] blorente (~blorente@213.143.48.239) joined #scummvm. [12:35] #scummvm: mode change '+v blorente' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:49] jammm (~jam@27.58.37.38) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:49] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) joined #scummvm. [12:49] snover (~Adium@unaffiliated/snover) joined #scummvm. [12:49] #scummvm: mode change '+o snover' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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[13:53] [scummvm] csnover pushed 7 new commits to master: https://git.io/vKF0g [13:53] scummvm/master bb0d5e0 Colin Snover: SCI32: Handle remap data outside the game's remap range [13:53] scummvm/master 20106ff Colin Snover: SCI32: Fix backwards kFrameOut throttle timings [13:53] scummvm/master 49eed5d Colin Snover: SCI32: Use extern instead of #include frameout.h for splitRects [13:53] GitHub95 (GitHub95@192.30.252.42) left #scummvm. [14:12] uruk-hai (~Peter@catv-89-133-19-143.catv.broadband.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:54] Nick change: Begasus -> Begas_afk [15:08] GitHub171 (~GitHub171@192.30.252.40) joined #scummvm. [15:08] [scummvm] csnover opened pull request #791: SCI32: Transitions (master...sci32-transitions) https://git.io/vKFit [15:08] GitHub171 (GitHub171@192.30.252.40) left #scummvm. [15:09] whee [15:11] Cruel` (~cruel@173-169-129-195.res.bhn.net) joined #scummvm. [15:13] yup. [15:14] i suspect the whole thing about opt-out GC is going to have some feedback [15:16] I wouldn't have chosen to do it this way (as you can see from what I did in ScrollWindow) [15:18] does it really seem better to have every component that needs to opt-out from GC to add hooks into the garbage collector? i dont know [15:18] kScrollWindow needs it, kSetShowStyle needs it, kRobot needs it [15:19] kPlayVMD too, if it yields back to the VM and a GC cycle is run [15:33] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:36] the engine itself allocates and frees the memory as generic moveable block [15:38] i mean, SSCI. [15:39] anyway, im not opposed to changing it to something that makes more sense [15:40] uruk-hai (~Peter@catv-89-133-19-143.catv.broadband.hu) joined #scummvm. [15:40] #scummvm: mode change '+o uruk-hai' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:42] snover: regarding the transitions that you didn't detect yet - why don't you patch a script to use that missing transitions, and see how SSCI behaves? [15:43] omer_mor: because if the transitions arent used by an actual game, it is a waste of effort to implement them [15:43] good point :-) [15:46] jammm (~jam@27.58.37.38) joined #scummvm. [15:46] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:59] anyway, if you wanted to do a bitmap segment or whatever, that can be done, though i feel like there was this idea that such a thing exists in SSCI and it doesnt actually appear so [16:01] ajax16384 (~User@ip138.net138.n37.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:04] the segments are to clean up memory management on our side; not so much to mirror SSCI [16:04] e.g., you get type safety [16:05] I'll have a look soonish (busy tonight) [16:05] ok. no hurry. [16:05] im going back to look at robot audio again and hopefully, with the information youve provided, have this all cleaned up and working soon [16:15] ajax16384 (~User@ip33.net130.n37.ru) joined #scummvm. [16:15] #scummvm: mode change '+o ajax16384' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:28] jammm (~jam@27.58.37.38) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:35] I have a question, if somebody has moment. I'm working on Deja Vu, and the filenames have a ron of french tildes in them, so I cannot open them. What s the recommended way to open files with s paces and tildes in their names? [16:36] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) joined #scummvm. [16:37] uruk-hai (~Peter@catv-89-133-19-143.catv.broadband.hu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:40] blorente1: eh, what? [16:40] escape them? [16:40] (not sure I am understanding) [16:40] unicode filenames [16:41] non-ascii filenames [16:41] Snover exacty [16:41] spaces and tilde were in ascii last time I checked :P [16:41] but okay [16:41] I believe the default char-based string does not support them [16:42] t0by: he means diacritics [16:42] I do, things like dèjá vu [16:42] Or the other way around, can't remember [16:43] Now the filenames also have the tildes, but somehow te file opener does not recognize them [16:44] Nick change: Mia -> Axy [16:44] I wouldn't be surprised if funny things happened after shoving unicode multibyte chars inside an array of char[] tucked inside a class that assumes pure ascii. [16:44] extend Common::String? :P [16:44] you know you want to [16:45] you knoooooowwww you want to [16:45] Just like replace(), right? Exceptthis time I realy have no idea [16:45] XD [16:45] blorente1, you have the general idea of how unicode works? [16:46] T0by nope, but it can't be that hard right? (Famois last words) [16:46] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:47] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) joined #scummvm. [16:47] blorente1, the basic idea is that unicode chars are made up of multiple successive bytes [16:48] which, from memory, start with a reserved byte and is followed by... stuff. [16:48] if you are familiar with the midi protocol is vaguely similar. [16:48] head over to wikipedia and have fun [16:48] your life worsens when you have stuff written around the assumption that 1 byte = 1 char [16:49] T0by allright, I think I could do it if need be. I just find it surprising that nobody has faced this issue before [16:49] and, that the nth byte is the nth char. [16:50] blorente1, maybe somebody did [16:50] can't help you though [16:50] T0by thanks anyway :) [16:56] there are multiple different codings for unicode, utf-8, utf-16/ucs-2, utf-32/ucs-4, they do not all work the same [16:57] and even with those encodings the OS may choose different ways of representing combined glyphs (i.e. a + ´ versus á) [16:58] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_equivalence unicooodeee [16:58] blorente1 (~blorente@84.78.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [16:59] yeah, id disconnect my computer from the internet by pulling the cable and run away screaming, too [16:59] at least i assume thats what just happened. [17:01] blorente (~blorente@84.78.18.106) joined #scummvm. [17:01] #scummvm: mode change '+v blorente' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:03] WooShell (~Markus@ipbcc0701d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #scummvm. 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