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[00:33] <m_kiewitz> anyone else owns Duckman?
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[00:33] <m_kiewitz> on my CD quite a few files are 700 MB each, I guess some sort of copy protection
[00:33] <m_kiewitz> but i would like to make a backup onto HDD
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[03:37] <GitHub16> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr6ov
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[04:42] <GitHub97> [scummvm-tools] Kirben pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr6i5
[04:42] <GitHub97> scummvm-tools/master ce54900 Kirben: TOOLS: Update variable names for HE games in descumm.
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[04:59] <GitHub51> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr6Pr
[04:59] <GitHub51> scummvm/master 0d77dbc Strangerke: GNAP: Initialize some more variables
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[05:09] <GitHub18> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr6Xm
[05:09] <GitHub18> scummvm/master 03f7ab1 Strangerke: GNAP: More initializations
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[05:26] <GitHub167> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr61U
[05:26] <GitHub167> scummvm/master 454bcdc Strangerke: GNAP: Strengthen sanity checks in drawBitmap
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[05:51] <waltervn> morning
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[05:57] <GitHub128> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr6MK
[05:57] <GitHub128> scummvm/master bffe231 Strangerke: GNAP: Small changes in scene 02 hotspots
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[06:04] <GitHub36> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vr6De
[06:04] <GitHub36> scummvm/master 8b685a2 Strangerke: GNAP: Use an enum value in the declaration of setHotspot
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[07:24] <Strangerke|work> hi guys
[07:30] <_sev> hi Strangerke
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[08:44] <_sev> guys
[08:45] <_sev> what could be the nickname for the release?
[08:45] <_sev> so far I am thinking about "Where Is Your Android?"
[08:45] <_sev> because we have the Android port revived
[08:45] <_sev> but looking for a better ideas
[08:46] <Strangerke|work> Mentioning Android is a good idea
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[09:51] <GitHub153> [scummvm] Kirben pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vriI2
[09:51] <GitHub153> scummvm/master b994a02 Kirben: SCUMM HE: Document more opcodes.
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[10:58] <Strangerke|work> hi iskrich
[11:00] <iskrich> hi Strangerke
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[11:34] <salty-horse> Strangerke, here? gnap.cpp:140 seems to have a typo: for (int i = 0; i < 30; i++) _menuInventorySprites[30] = nullptr;
[11:34] <Strangerke|work> indeed. Could you please fix it?
[11:34] <Strangerke|work> I have no way to push from here
[11:37] <salty-horse> ok
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[11:39] <GitHub46> [scummvm] salty-horse pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vriCb
[11:39] <GitHub46> scummvm/master 32e7eec Ori Avtalion: GNAP: Fix typo in initialization code
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[11:42] <Strangerke|work> Thanks!
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[12:14] <waltervn> hi snover
[12:16] <snover> hey waltervn
[12:16] <snover> i wont be here very long right now, back later in the day
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[12:17] <t0by> Afternoon
[12:17] <t0by> ?join #statistics
[12:17] <t0by> rats
[12:17] <t0by> sorry
[12:21] <_sev> should we all join #statistics now? ;)
[12:22] <t0by> Well, you brutes might end up learning something.
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[14:18] <rootfather> @_sev "The Droid you are looking for"
[14:19] <rootfather> or better "The droids you're looking for"
[14:19] <rootfather> btw will the android sdl package replace the "old" port?
[14:21] <_sev> this is what I'm trying to discuss with fuzzie now
[14:21] <Strangerke|work> I have absolutely no idea
[14:21] <rootfather> or a more subtle name: "Scumm-E"
[14:34] <rootfather> hm release is today, right?
[14:36] <_sev> yes
[14:36] <_sev> as usual, in the evening
[14:37] <fuzzie> hm, so as I just replied via private mail, I'm not really sure, but we can always mark SDL one as 'better compatibility'
[14:38] <_sev> okay, let's try to do it this way then
[14:38] <rootfather> if you already have a draft for the website announcement, it would be cool if you could share it to make the translation progress faster :)
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[14:38] <rootfather> fuzzie the problem I see is that the average user won't know the difference between the 2 android versions
[14:39] <rootfather> "Lots of quesions incoming I see, my padawan"
[14:39] <rootfather> questions
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[14:40] <fuzzie> well, it's going to be impossible for us to fix most bugs in the SDL one, so :/
[14:44] <fuzzie> I still hope someone will find time to merge some of the patches and/or SDL code into the native port code, as I suggested for the GSoC task this year - but if it has to be me it won't be in the next while I guess
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[14:45] <blorente> Hello :)
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[15:02] <Strangerke|work> Buenas tardes
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[15:27] <blorente> 50 points for griff... Strangerke|work
[15:27] <blorente> :)
[15:27] <blorente> It's 7:30 pm here
[15:29] <Strangerke|work> 7:30pm? In spain?
[15:30] <Strangerke|work> Tu bluffes, Marconi
[15:31] <Strangerke|work> s/Marconi/Martoni
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[15:37] <blorente1> It's 5:30 pm *
[15:37] <blorente1> sorry
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[15:37] <blorente1> I don't know how to write anymore
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[17:26] <DJWillis> Evenings
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[17:42] <blorente1> DJWillis, Eveninv :)
[17:42] <DJWillis> Hola blorente1
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[17:48] <rootfather> the commit message in the MAME github repo are sometimes just... weird.
[17:48] <rootfather> A good example how not to write commit messages.
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[18:05] <GitHub31> [scummvm] csnover pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vrPKT
[18:05] <GitHub31> scummvm/master 79ddb9e Colin Snover: SCI: Allow debugging output of all VM variables in one shot
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[18:10] <snover> LSL6 hires is an *exceptionally* buggy game.
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[18:12] <snover> There seems to be some kind of weirdo loop that passes invalid rects to CantBeHere in a loop, planes with invalid rects, calls to CelWide that miss the third argument even though the third argument is required, which means its going to read the width of a random cel
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[18:27] <_sev> snover: what your guys plan regarding merging the SCI PRs?
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[18:37] <snover> _sev: kScrollWindow has some outstanding feedback, I was thinking of taking over and finishing it up when I finished with what I was working on, unless wjp comes back to do it. The other one, I dont know much about the VM, so I am not sure I can provide good feedback; I will run locally for a while with these changes to see if anything weird happens at least
[18:38] <_sev> ok
[18:38] <_sev> I'm in preps of the news item for 1.8.1 release
[18:38] <_sev> soon I'll need a proofreading help
[18:39] <snover> cool, let me know what you need :)
[18:39] <rootfather> count me in for proofreading
[18:39] <rootfather> not a native speaker, but better than nothing I guess :P
[18:40] <snover> be sure to maximise the puns in order to drive the translators crazy :P
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[18:42] <rootfather> :D
[18:45] <snover> wish i knew why sci viewer is ignoring patches directory
[18:55] <WooShell> meow =^.^=
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[19:04] <GitHub59> [scummvm] rootfather pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vrPQ3
[19:04] <GitHub59> scummvm/master c3705c0 Lothar Serra Mari: NEWS: Mention QfG3 dialog fix
[19:04] <GitHub59> scummvm/master 51fe850 Lothar Serra Mari: NEWS/DE: Mention QfG3 dialog fix
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[19:09] <salty-horse> thanks for that commit, rootfather!
[19:10] <rootfather> it's always a pleasure :)
[19:11] <omer_mor> thanks rootfather!
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[19:17] <m_kiewitz> its not really a bug in the original interpreter, but rather a bug in the game itself
[19:22] <omer_mor> m_kiewitz: you're right. rootfather showed me his draft and I missed this nuance.
[19:24] <DJWillis> _sev: I'll get my builds in at the weekend, been all over the place with work so not done final builds yet. Mea Cupla.
[19:25] <_sev> DJWillis: that's great
[19:33] <_sev> guys
[19:33] <_sev> the news item to proofread:
[19:33] <_sev> http://pastebin.com/iJmGsAhE
[19:35] <_sev> snover, DJWillis: need your help ^^^^
[19:36] <DJWillis> _sev: rereading that second paragraph as it does not quite read right but I can't figure out why ;)
[19:37] <_sev> DJWillis: sorry :)
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[19:44] <Strangerke> "Couple months" doesn't sound right
[19:45] <Strangerke> "A couple of months" ?
[19:45] <Strangerke> "we would like to present you a new release" (no with)
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[19:46] <_sev> Strangerke: should I say "just 82 days"?
[19:47] <_sev> or 7,084,800 seconds?
[19:48] <Strangerke> I keep saying that 'Couple months' sounds broken
[19:49] <Strangerke> damn, I have to go back and teach maths to my daughter... brb
[19:49] <_sev> yeah, fixed both
[19:55] <bgK> Looks like http://scummvm.sourceforge.net/ still points to some older host and is outdated. (The news item looks good to me BTW)
[19:57] <_sev> bgK: oh, right
[19:57] <DJWillis> _sev: http://pastebin.com/w4FcJqDN
[19:57] <DJWillis> couple months should be couple of months
[19:58] <_sev> DJWillis: you rock
[20:01] <DJWillis> Worth getting someone else to cast an eye over it. As an aside it feels like we have our first *.1 release that feels like a big release :).
[20:02] <_sev> :)
[20:02] Action: DJWillis notes that he really needs to get back into hacking around again.
[20:04] <_sev> new paste: http://pastebin.com/AREphubg
[20:04] <_sev> DJWillis: indeed
[20:06] <_sev> snover: ping?
[20:06] <Strangerke> "we are currently working on bringing the this new release" => extra 'the'
[20:06] <DJWillis> All the details could be > All the details on how the update works can be
[20:07] <_sev> fixed both
[20:08] <DJWillis> Besides all of this no ScummVM release would be complete without game engine > In addition to all of this, no ScummVM release would be complete without game engine < Wonder if that reads better?
[20:09] <Strangerke> is it a "check for the updates" or a "check for updates"? The later sounds better to me
[20:10] <P2E> do you guys need another pair of editor/proofreader eyes
[20:10] <P2E> I don't want to insert myself if you've got this
[20:10] <Strangerke> "Also, we would like to know whether you will like to see
[20:10] <Strangerke> a similar feature for Windows or other platforms.
[20:10] <Strangerke> "
[20:10] <Strangerke> => would like
[20:10] <P2E> or "you'd like"
[20:10] <Strangerke> yes, even better
[20:11] <Strangerke> P2E: just wait for a refresh of the pastebin... and, sure :)
[20:11] <DJWillis> Yep, you'd like, missed that, sorry
[20:12] <Strangerke> "and by default checks weekly for the new release" => I would say "a new release"
[20:12] <P2E> or even "for new releases"
[20:13] <Strangerke> yes, I was hesitating with that too, but logically I expect only 1 new release (the others being less new) ;)
[20:14] <P2E> well, the point would be that if you decide not to install, it's going to continue to check
[20:14] <P2E> so there's a chance it would find more than one release
[20:14] <Strangerke> it'll only find the latest
[20:14] <Strangerke> but that's really a detail, both sounds good
[20:15] <P2E> yeah, either "a new release" or "new releases" are both better than "the" new release
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[20:15] <_sev> ok, updating the paste
[20:16] <_sev> http://pastebin.com/t4HWh0Tc
[20:17] <Strangerke> just a detail, is it a bug fix release or a maintenance release?
[20:17] <Strangerke> I'm asking because more than half the description doesn't concern bug fixes
[20:17] <_sev> ok, will call it maintenance
[20:18] <_sev> so now it is
[20:18] <_sev> ScummVM 1.8.1 "Where Is Your Android?" maintenance release is out
[20:18] <Strangerke> "a new point release of ScummVM" ?
[20:18] <Strangerke> I don't get the meaning of 'point'...
[20:18] <_sev> point one
[20:18] <_sev> major and point
[20:18] <_sev> major is 1.8
[20:19] <_sev> and now 1.8.1
[20:19] <Strangerke> ha ok
[20:19] <_sev> in fact
[20:19] <_sev> 1.8 is minor
[20:19] <_sev> 1 is major, 1.8 is minor, 1.8.1 is point
[20:19] <Strangerke> yep, now it's clear
[20:19] <P2E> "couple of months" didn't make it into this new paste
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[20:21] <P2E> regarding the 3DS paragraph:
[20:22] <P2E> We will also be adding Nintendo 3DS support! As of release time, the new binaries have not been built by our new porter. So, keep your eyes peeled!
[20:23] <P2E> I think that reads more nicely
[20:23] <Strangerke> it's Google Play, not Google Play store
[20:23] <_sev> P2E: sorry, what about the couple of months?
[20:23] <Strangerke> it's still couple months
[20:23] <Strangerke> with 'of'
[20:24] <P2E> the link that was just pasted says "couple months" at the top, "of" did not make it between them
[20:24] <_sev> ok, added
[20:24] <_sev> changed the 3DS too
[20:25] <_sev> Strangerke: removed "store"
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[20:25] <snover> im back. still talking about the news?
[20:25] <P2E> "check for updates" not "check for the updates" on 30
[20:26] <_sev> fixed
[20:26] <_sev> snover: yes
[20:26] <_sev> let me paste the latest version
[20:26] <snover> an etherpad would be a great choice :)
[20:27] <_sev> http://pastebin.com/5GAeqhfK
[20:27] <DJWillis> Yep :)
[20:27] <_sev> oh
[20:27] <_sev> let me use it then
[20:27] <P2E> google docs is also pretty solid at multiplayer notepad
[20:27] <snover> or a google doc
[20:27] <DJWillis> Nope, don't worry, think it is almost done :)
[20:27] <snover> yeah :)
[20:27] <_sev> ah, everyone has to install it
[20:27] <_sev> google doc!
[20:27] <_sev> right, next time
[20:28] <_sev> here
[20:28] <_sev> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQhKPmxmKP1lGyuLgsaRe4A7tCLYqmncYAImRHH218o/edit?usp=sharing
[20:29] <Strangerke> "Straight to Google Play" without 'the'
[20:29] <_sev> Strangerke: you may just edit it
[20:30] <P2E> editing is not turned on
[20:30] <snover> youll just need to change the share mode to comments instead of view for others
[20:30] <_sev> yes, just did so
[20:31] <P2E> I'd like to work on this updates paragraph a tiny bit
[20:31] <Strangerke> For Sparkle, do you consider making a poll in the forum?
[20:32] <_sev> I think no
[20:34] <snover> just in case someone is wondering, i show up as google
[20:35] <P2E> snover: while you're google, can you fix hangouts and stuff
[20:35] <blorente1> Please make G+ popular
[20:36] <DJWillis> Yep :)
[20:36] <snover> i tried fixing myself and all that resulted was a sentient cab driver AI
[20:36] <blorente1> Maybe sell yourself to Elon Musk?
[20:38] <P2E> snover: bummer!
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[20:45] <snover> hm, cut and paste seems to not work so well with suggestions mode :)
[20:45] <P2E> haha, the update paragraph has gone crazy
[20:45] <P2E> I'm waiting for it to settle out
[20:45] <snover> im done <s>ruining</s> it
[20:46] <_sev> much better
[20:47] <P2E> yeah, that's reasonable, I like it
[20:49] <_sev> are we done now?
[20:49] <Strangerke> Fine for me
[20:50] <P2E> yep, I'm calling it good
[20:51] <_sev> snover: ?
[20:52] <snover> all good here
[20:52] <_sev> excellent!
[20:52] <_sev> thank you all for your help
[20:52] <_sev> publishing now
[20:52] <P2E> happy to help, closing!
[20:53] <Strangerke> thanks P2E :)
[20:54] <Strangerke> P2E: Don't you have a little song to celebrate that?
[20:54] <P2E> it's the least I can do for enjoying scummvm all these years and shamelessly promoting my music here =]
[20:54] <P2E> haha
[20:54] <Strangerke> P2E: You see, I can advertise for your music too :D
[20:55] <P2E> truth!
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[20:55] <GitHub7> [scummvm-web] sev- pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm-web/commit/6a8822f2526fcc8d12639c4d8eb47c8fe1dd92a2
[20:55] <GitHub7> scummvm-web/master 6a8822f Eugene Sandulenko: WEB: Update for 1.8.1 release and announce it
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[21:01] <P2E> has scummvm been used in whole or in part in any steam ports?
[21:01] <_sev> yw
[21:01] <_sev> yes
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[21:52] <snover> i feel confused& lsl6hires calls kCelWide with 2 arguments instead of 3; that kernel call unconditionally uses all three arguments, so the third one will be an invalid read. thats fine, except i dont understand how this didnt occasionally cause bad things to happen, since if the value (a cel number) is interpreted as a signed word, it could be negative, and theres only code to fix positive out-of-range values&
[21:53] <snover> feels like i am missing something obvious. like i should change celNo to be unsigned.
[21:59] <snover> its definitely a signed comparison in the sq6 interpreter and i cant imagine it was different for lsl6
[22:01] <snover> oh well. i guess it doesnt matter too much since it gets a workaround due to the signature mismatch anyway
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[22:07] <snover> well that might not actually be true, the STILLCALL workaround doesnt seem to let me fix the value
[22:08] <snover> sigh, whatever, ill leave this for future me to figure out.
[22:08] <snover> sorry, future me.
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