ScummVM IRC Log - 23 Jul 2016

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[08:02] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
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[08:23] <GitHub156> [scummvm] OmerMor opened pull request #789: Add detection to the Hoyle 5 family of games (master...hoyle5) https://git.io/vKyWn
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[10:20] <salty-horse> clang complains about a few macro expansions that have defined() in them, such as GCC_ATLEAST() in common/scummsys.h - should I fix this or suppress the warning? more info here: http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-commits/Week-of-Mon-20160118/147239.html
[10:32] <wjp> fix it
[10:33] <wjp> seems like an easy fix, so no reason to suppress it I suppose?
[10:33] <wjp> (at least for GCC_ATLEAST; haven't looked for others)
[10:37] <salty-horse> ok, so I turned all GCC_ATLEAST()'s to defined(GCC_ATLEAST_X_Y) (there are 7 unique versions checked in the codebase)
[10:37] <wjp> why?
[10:37] <salty-horse> wjp, what's the easier way to fix this? :)
[10:38] <wjp> wouldn't something like this work? #ifdef __GNUC__ #define GCC_ATLEAST(minor, major) blah #else #define GCC_ATLEAST(minor, major) 0?
[10:39] <salty-horse> doh
[10:39] <salty-horse> doh doh doh
[10:39] <salty-horse> I am silly
[10:39] <salty-horse> thank you
[10:41] <wjp> thanks for addressing this
[10:41] <wjp> I hadn't realized this was a potential issue before
[10:42] <salty-horse> in the case of the gcc test it's ok, since the test will fail in visual studio anyway :)
[10:47] <wjp> nice coincidence :-)
[10:48] <salty-horse> another new clang warning: ./common/singleton.h:70:8: warning: instantiation of variable 'Common::Singleton<Graphics::FontManager>::_singleton' required here, but no definition is available [-Wundefined-var-template]
[10:51] <wjp> hm, is that the declaration order?
[10:52] <wjp> is it fixed by moving the declaration of _singleton all the way to the top of the class definition?
[10:52] <salty-horse> testing...
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[10:54] <GitHub57> [scummvm] salty-horse opened pull request #790: ALL: Don't use 'defined' in macro definitions (master...clang_fixes) https://git.io/vKyRF
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[10:57] <salty-horse> wjp, no. I will have to read more about it, but first I'll fix the other defined() issues I missed :)
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[11:07] <salty-horse> another new warning: passing an object that undergoes default argument promotion to 'va_start' has undefined behavior [-Wvarargs] (in hugo/display.cpp:352. also kyra, lure, tony, tsage)
[11:12] <wjp> oh, that's a bit of an annoying one
[11:26] <salty-horse> wjp, seems like the fix for the singleton warnings is to move DELCARE_SINGLETON() from their cpp files to the bottom of their header files. http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-commits/Week-of-Mon-20160418/155997.html
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[11:31] <m_kiewitz> Anyone seen Star Trek Enterprise? Is it really bad?
[11:32] <salty-horse> I've seen a few episodes of the first season
[11:32] <wjp> same for me. And then I didn't continue watching
[11:33] <salty-horse> it's fine, I guess. I'm not too critical of media :)
[11:33] <m_kiewitz> wjp: why? didn't like it? boring?
[11:33] <m_kiewitz> compared to Next Generation, Deepspace 9 and Voyager?
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[11:37] <wjp> don't really remember. It didn't leave much of an impression of any kind
[11:37] <salty-horse> m_kiewitz, the title sequence has lyrics :P
[11:37] <m_kiewitz> eh what? lyrics? what
[11:38] <salty-horse> exactly
[11:38] <m_kiewitz> i guess i should look for the first episode on youtube first
[11:38] <salty-horse> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_of_the_Heart
[11:39] <salty-horse> at least it's not https://youtu.be/X3F-C-rDVtU?t=28
[11:41] <m_kiewitz> co_O
[11:41] <m_kiewitz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8OpsPok6iQ <-- wtf, sounds like a theme song for three musketeers

[11:43] <m_kiewitz> o_O
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[11:45] <salty-horse> the first 2 episodes also have a very odd shower scene
[11:45] <salty-horse> that's very un-star trek
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[11:47] <salty-horse> oh, great. I "fixed" all the singleton warnings and now I get linker errors about multiple definitions of Common::Singleton<...>::_singleton
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[12:00] <wjp> salty-horse: which clang version are you using?
[12:00] <fuzzie> this seems like a bad warning, really
[12:02] <fuzzie> hm
[12:02] <salty-horse> wjp, 4.0 (unstable). fuzzie, yes there is discussion about it in the llvm thread I linked above, but it kind of stopped
[12:02] <fuzzie> salty-horse: does the warning not explicitly say 'add an explicit instantiation declaration'?
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[12:04] <fuzzie> that would seem an ok fix, i.e. an 'extern T* Common::Singleton<whatever>::_singleton;' in the header
[12:04] <salty-horse> sorry, got to go. back in 1 hour or so
[12:04] <salty-horse> I will try that later
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[12:52] <salty-horse> fuzzie, extern templates are a C++11 extension :P
[12:54] <fuzzie> oh, right
[12:54] <fuzzie> the helpful part of the warning is protected with a CPlusPlus11 check in the source, nice
[12:55] <fuzzie> this didn't really quite get enough discussion in the review
[12:59] <salty-horse> the thread ends with "Do you have any thoughts how the diagnostics could be improved? Any ideas are welcome."
[12:59] <salty-horse> any thoughts on the separate va_start warning?
[13:00] <fuzzie> "Don't waste time trying to fix clang stuff" is pretty high on the list of things I've learnt this year.
[13:04] <fuzzie> and, no, 'that's a bit of an annoying one' sums it up nicely I guess
[13:06] <salty-horse> :P
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[17:23] <Cheeseness> Some thoughts on doing DotT Remastered's Linux port for anybody who's interested :) http://cheesetalks.net/porting_dott.php
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[17:31] <t0by> darn
[17:33] <snover> Cheeseness: phew, i cant imagine how long it took to write that!
[17:35] <Cheeseness> I wrote most of with within the past couple of days, but I'd been keeping notes and writing bits and pieces since the beginning of June
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[18:33] <snover> omer_mor: sci companion supports through sci2.1 you just need to rename the resources from resmap.nnn and ressci.nnn to resource.map/000
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[19:24] <omer_mor> snover: thanks - i'll try that
[19:24] <omer_mor> oh - but it's the mac game
[19:24] <omer_mor> I have data1
[19:25] <omer_mor> I don't think sci companion will support it
[19:25] <omer_mor> what sci version is hoyle5?
[19:26] <snover> 2.1 something, probably mid, i only have the demo
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[19:30] <omer_mor> thanks for the tip about sci companion. it seems to work with the win vesion of hoyle5 :-)
[19:31] <omer_mor> I'll tell phil about it - he could probably add support for these file pairs easily
[19:49] <snover> if only everything were so easy :)
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