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[08:40] <uruk_hai> hey all! :)
[08:43] <fuzzie> g'morning
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[09:04] <Strangerke> hi guys
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[09:25] <waltervn> bah, I put salt in my coffee...
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[09:29] <wjp> definitely a sign you did need that coffee
[09:29] <wjp> speaking of which
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[09:31] <Wishmaster> Hey. It seems like http://scummvm.org/games/#sfinx , the english version is actually the polish one
[09:32] <wjp> how so?
[09:32] <Wishmaster> sfinx-en-v1.0.zip
[09:32] <Wishmaster> I downloaded it, opened it in scummvm and it is recognized as polish
[09:32] <wjp> (oh, and somebody managed to put a __MACOSX folder in there...)
[09:33] <Wishmaster> And it doesnt load for ma anyways
[09:36] <wjp> how recent is the scummvm version you're trying?
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[09:37] <wjp> I get "Sfinx (Freeware v1.0/DOS/English)"
[09:37] <wjp> with a current git build
[09:37] <wjp> but this __MACOSX directory is not good :-(
[09:38] <wjp> who makes the sfinx download zips?
[09:38] <criezy> Hmm?
[09:38] <criezy> Did I leave by mistake a hidden OS X directory in the Sfinx package?
[09:38] <wjp> yes
[09:38] <wjp> not so hidden here :-)
[09:38] <criezy> I will fix that.
[09:38] <wjp> thanks
[09:38] <wjp> good timing :-)
[09:39] <criezy> As for detection (reading the log quickly) you need a recent build.
[09:39] <criezy> I added it two or three days ago.
[09:40] <Wishmaster> I have Scummvm 1.7.0 (Jul 22 2014, 14:34:38) on Android, so its not recent enough I guess?
[09:40] <lewellyn> nope
[09:40] <criezy> It looks more that 2 or 3 days old ;)
[09:41] <wjp> hm, it may be good to add a note to the game download page for that
[09:41] <eriktorbjorn> wjp: I also get it detected as "Freeware v1.0/DOS/English" with the current Git version. However, I also get a warning message that the game is unknown.
[09:42] <Wishmaster> wjp: Definately
[09:42] <wjp> that warning is from the CGE1 detection probably
[09:42] <wjp> which is a rather annoying situation
[09:42] <Wishmaster> Does this explain why my scummvm detects the english version as polish?
[09:43] <criezy> When an engine implements a fallback detection (as is the case for CGE1) could we avoid printing a warning for unrecognized version?
[09:43] <wjp> what if you get an actual unrecognized version?
[09:44] <Wishmaster> Help! I downloaded the recent version for Android from http://buildbot.scummvm.org/builds.html do i have that separate engines mess again?
[09:44] <Wishmaster> Like I have to install the ones I need manually?
[09:45] <fuzzie> well, 'manually'
[09:45] <fuzzie> 'for i in *.apk; do adb install -r $i; done'
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[09:45] <fuzzie> but yes, buildbot is still producing plugins I guess
[09:45] <Wishmaster> Ugh, why the....
[09:46] <eriktorbjorn> Speaking of annoying, is the Sfinx opening scene supposed to go on for as long as it does, or is there something you do to make the light go out?
[09:46] <fuzzie> if I were ruler of the world, the people with low-end android devices would be first against the wall
[09:46] <fuzzie> also anyone with an HTC one
[09:47] <criezy> eriktorbjorn: click the fan on the ceiling
[09:47] <criezy> the light should go out a few seconds after that
[09:47] <Wishmaster> fuzzie: Can you make buildbot to produce it as a single APK?
[09:47] <fuzzie> nope
[09:48] <eriktorbjorn> criezy: So we're firmly into Sierra moon logic territory, I take it?
[09:48] <fuzzie> if you post on the forum then digitall could probably arrange it, but then other people will complain, so..
[09:49] <Wishmaster> fuzzie: Do you mean me?
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[10:02] <DrMcCoy> waltervn: I see that as a sign that you shouldn't have tried to put anything into that coffee :P
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[10:04] <DrMcCoy> fuzzie: And that's the reason I don't have a mobile phone at all ;)
[10:06] <Wishmaster> Hm the version 1.8.0 drashes on my Android phone on startup
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[10:08] <GitHub26> [scummvm-web] criezy pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Elk78Q
[10:08] <GitHub26> scummvm-web/master e683273 Thierry Crozat: WEB: Add ScummVM build requirement for Sfinx en v1.0
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[10:11] <Strangerke> Oh, sfinx 1.0 :) Cool!
[10:11] <Strangerke> thanks criezy
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[10:17] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
[10:20] <Wishmaster> Oh now it works
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[10:41] <wjp> I don't suppose we have any stable sort algorithm in Common currently?
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[13:53] <GitHub84> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/0O_IHg
[13:53] <GitHub84> scummvm/master 1d5536d Filippos Karapetis: SCI: Enable some menus in Jones after restoring (bugs #6537 and #6723)...
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[14:03] <GitHub95> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/YpQcEA
[14:03] <GitHub95> scummvm/master d3475fe Filippos Karapetis: GRAPHICS: Silence an MSVC warning
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[14:04] <wjp> [md5]: do you mean that Jones bug also happens in SSCI?
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[14:18] <Lightkey> /topic <Strangerke> I was doing rituals in the school bus when I was a teen
[14:19] <Lightkey> and now I remember the Amerzone comics from the public library! just never put 1+1 together..
[14:19] <[md5]> wjp: There are two different bugs here
[14:19] <[md5]> wjp: One bug occurs when restoring from the game's main menu - this works in SSCI, not in ScummVM
[14:20] <[md5]> wjp: The other bug occurs when restoring from the ScummVM launcher - same behavior, though this can't be tested against SSCI
[14:20] <[md5]> restoring from the top in-game menu works in both SSCI and ScummVM
[14:21] <[md5]> but the logic that enables these menus is a mess...
[14:21] <[md5]> if you can find your way through the scripts, feel free to
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[14:25] <wjp> I see
[14:26] <wjp> it's just that the right scripts not being called on load makes me rather nervous
[14:29] <wjp> any idea if it happens with all saves, or just with ones produced with some of the many ways of saving?
[14:31] <wjp> the thing that bothers me is that instead of not behaving like the original in one place (the original bug), we now behave differently from the original in two ways (the original bug, and the workaround)
[14:32] <wjp> for the scummvm menus that's sometimes unavoidable, but for script issues it makes me very nervous
[14:32] <[md5]> ok
[14:32] <[md5]> it happens all the time
[14:32] <[md5]> and it's game breaking
[14:33] <[md5]> i.e. save a game, exit to launcher, start the game again, restore --> you can no longer save your game
[14:33] <[md5]> in order to play an older game, you need to start a new game, and then restore your old one
[14:33] <[md5]> and you can't load from the launcher
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[19:19] <DrMcCoy> http://www.pcgamer.com/gabriel-knight-and-the-colours-of-voodoo/
[19:22] <dreammaster> What do you know about Voodoo?
[19:22] <t0by> You remind me of the babe.
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[19:25] <t0by> (What babe?)
[19:25] <t0by> Babe of the power!
[19:25] <t0by> (What power?)
[19:25] <t0by> Power of VOODOO.
[19:25] <t0by> (Who do?)
[19:25] <dreammaster> Whodoo?
[19:25] <t0by> You do!
[19:25] <dreammaster> :)
[19:25] <t0by> (Do what?)
[19:25] <t0by> GOTO 10
[19:26] <DrMcCoy> t0by: You are no David Bowie
[19:26] <t0by> Well, you are no Jennifer Connelly either, sir.
[19:26] <clone2727> Don't be so sure
[19:27] <DrMcCoy> I'm more like Ludo
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[19:33] <LordHoto> DrMcCoy: I like how that article links HoF screenshots.
[19:34] <DrMcCoy> I don't
[19:36] <t0by> Very nice. They could have put a few spoiler warnings, though.
[19:37] <DrMcCoy> For a 20 years old game?
[19:37] <clone2727> Rosebud is a sled
[19:37] <LordHoto> t0by: Darth Vader is Luke's father.^w^w^w^w^wOops
[19:38] <clone2727> Soylent green is people
[19:38] <LordHoto> Snape kills Dumbledore
[19:38] <fuzzie> why don't the two of you just ruin christmas while you're at it
[19:39] <LordHoto> Santa isn't real?
[19:41] <DrMcCoy> Oogie Boogie has Santa
[19:42] <clone2727> DrMcCoy: You need to work on your joke timing
[19:42] <DrMcCoy> :(
[19:43] <LordHoto> DrMcCoy was too busy being impressed by HoF screenshots
[19:43] <DrMcCoy> Why the long paws/pause?
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[21:14] <wjp> [md5]: I'm getting the impression we're missing something big when it comes to the SCI menu and saving/loading
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[21:26] <wjp> stepping through JonesCD in dosbox, the menu entries are enabled inside KRestoreGame. Quite possibly it's saving/restoring the menu
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[21:28] <wjp> ah, and I see that the relevant block of memory literally occurs in the savegame file, too
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[21:34] <wjp> I think I'm convinced the menu is just part of the savegame here
[21:34] <wjp> fun
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[21:45] <GitHub10> [scummvm] wjp pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/L8B0Cg
[21:45] <GitHub10> scummvm/master 1860c21 Willem Jan Palenstijn: SCI: Add notes
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