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[08:05] kurtwr (~kurtwr@c-73-12-209-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: [08:07] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [08:20] #scummvm: mode change '+v Tkachov' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:24] t0by (~t0by@host77-241-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #scummvm. [08:24] #scummvm: mode change '+v t0by' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:24] Morning [08:24] Lightkey: were you looking for me? [08:38] hi t0by [08:51] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) joined #scummvm. [09:14] _sev|work (~sev@scummvm/undead/sev) joined #scummvm. [09:14] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev|work' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [10:10] how insane an idea would it be to factor out the main loop from the engines and into the backends? [10:12] Why would you want to do that? [10:13] to run other things in paralell for a start [10:13] mighty difficult to run both the menu and the game at the same time right now [10:14] I still don't understand why you would like to do that :) [10:15] But mixing engine code with backends sounds indeed crazy [10:15] not mixing. changing the design. instead of the engine calling the backend, it is the backend calling the engine [10:15] instead of Engine::Run() it's Engine::Tick() [10:17] <_sev|work> that will require rewrite of all engines [10:17] <_sev|work> and all backends [10:18] <_sev|work> that is the major architecture decision, and might be plainly not possible with many engines [10:18] <_sev|work> especially those which run many things in parallel. Consider those engines running on co-routines [10:19] Brrrrrr [10:19] <_sev|work> and what you suggest, is looking like a typical emulator. And ScummVM is not an emulator, e.g. we do not have set of connected independed devices which maintain their state [10:20] sure you do, it's called an "Engine" [10:20] <_sev|work> it is not [10:20] <_sev|work> it is not reenterable [10:21] <_sev|work> Henke37: and why running a menu and engine is difficult now? [10:21] they mostly are actually. most Run implementations just have a simple main loop that calls an existing Update function [10:21] <_sev|work> we do use that for the EventRecorder now. [10:21] <_sev|work> both GUI and game run in parallel no problem [10:22] one counter example is the debug console [10:23] <_sev|work> because it is implemented as locking now [10:23] <_sev|work> it is pretty easy to make it work in parallel [10:23] there is also the main menu (not the loader) [10:23] <_sev|work> that is blocking on purpose [10:24] <_sev|work> because you want to save the game state at some specific moment [10:25] <_sev|work> actually same stands for the debug console, as it is used to check or modify the engine state at some chosen moment in time [10:25] <_sev|work> but I understand, when somebody would like to have that non-blocking [10:29] one thing that would be nice to have is smart guides. I already tried making one of my own. but lets face it, nobody is going to run a separate program that needs the exact pdb file of the scummvm build [10:32] <_sev|work> we used to have such feature as built-in walkthrough [10:32] <_sev|work> we decided to not let it go [10:35] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@business-78-139-55-13.business.broadband.hu) joined #scummvm. [10:35] #scummvm: mode change '+o uruk-hai' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [10:36] hey all :) [10:38] _sev|work, really? I haven't seen any mention of such a thing ever existing. Im currious, do you have any old screenshots or something? [11:53] <_sev|work> Henke37: it was from aquadran [11:54] <_sev|work> search scummvm-devel archives [11:54] <_sev|work> moreover, I believe it was even committed [11:54] <_sev|work> but then reverted [12:11] fuzzie is going to be happy. We have 0 security issue in ScummVM! [12:11] https://security.openhub.net/vulnerabilities/ScummVM/2c04b047-9098-4f86-813b-b94a6388c1f9?project_id=113 [12:11] According to them, we even managed to never have a single security issue in 15+ years! We rock! [12:15] seems legit. [12:16] parwana (uid31235@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrzlijtefptdjdvz) joined #scummvm. [12:16] cool :D [12:21] Strangerke|work: they just search for CVEs [12:23] <_sev|work> Strangerke|work: I have even better news for you. No animals were hurt during ScummVM development! [12:24] _sev|work: Are you really sure? [12:24] With all that voodoo involved in SCUMM games, I wouldn't be surprised if someone had to sacrifice a chicken [12:25] <_sev|work> Strangerke|work: well, only germs. There is a genocide. With every keypress I'm killing thousands of germs! [12:25] LePhilousophe: You're spoiling the fun :P [12:25] will a rubber chicken with a pully in the middle work? [12:25] <_sev|work> Strangerke|work: that's SCUMM, not ScummVM [12:26] _sev|work: unfortunately that's not true [12:26] once I hit my knee against my desk. [12:26] while committing. [12:26] bam. [12:26] there goes your record. [12:30] _sev|work, any suggestions on how to do that search? plain google isn't cooperating [12:30] http://breakingeveninc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/save_toby.jpg [12:34] lol. [12:38] waltervn (~waltervn@82-171-142-149.ip.telfort.nl) joined #scummvm. [12:38] #scummvm: mode change '+o waltervn' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:46] any idea roughly what date to start searching at in the repository? [12:47] Donc search before 2001, it's useless [12:47] ... or ask aquadran :) [12:48] aquadran, this is my formal request for comments [12:53] Henke37: He's most likely at work, so be patient [12:53] this is IRC, it's not unheard of people taking hours, even days, to respond [13:00] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [13:26] Henke37: it was long time ago, let see [13:36] hmm, it was repo was in svn, and it looks there is no trace of it [13:42] oh dear, that's quite old, isn't it? [13:43] anyway, do you recall why exactly it was dropped? [13:43] Littleboy (~littleboy@c-24-91-129-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #scummvm. [13:43] #scummvm: mode change '+o Littleboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [13:45] because some people don't like waklthrougs :) [13:46] in my opinion it was just option for some who like to use it, no one forced it. still it was decided not let keep it [13:48] I'd like to have that for the eastern eggs [13:50] Strangerke|work: we could get idea back :) [13:51] blorente (936072e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.96.114.233) joined #scummvm. [13:51] #scummvm: mode change '+v blorente' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [13:51] Good afternoot :) [13:51] for one thing, I have already done some work on COMI if you want to do it [13:53] heh. it was done for COMI in first place :) at least I used it on PDA at that time [13:53] here's my notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16xwz0upX9ZDi41vb0yHF-Ewk_t_XWCiHtAMWP2JMfBc/edit?usp=sharing [13:54] BBL [14:19] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@business-78-139-55-13.business.broadband.hu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:21] parwana (uid31235@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrzlijtefptdjdvz) left irc: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [14:30] a hinting system in scummvm would be pretty cool [14:36] indeed [14:59] kurtwr (~kurtwr@c-73-12-209-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #scummvm. [15:04] TMM (~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm) joined #scummvm. [15:05] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@catv-80-99-64-76.catv.broadband.hu) joined #scummvm. [15:05] #scummvm: mode change '+o uruk-hai' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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