ScummVM IRC Log - 18 Jan 2015

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[01:52] <GitHub165> scummvm/master 926404b Paul Gilbert: MADS: Renamings of Layer and a transition type
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[08:40] <eriktorbjorn> Oh, that's just sad. When I searched for "Zork" on Activision's web page, it asked if I meant Call of Duty.
[08:44] <eriktorbjorn> I don't suppose there was a Zork: Grand Inquisitor demo in German or French, or any other language with plenty of accented characters? I have a feeling subtitles don't work very well for those.
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[11:07] <GitHub81> [scummvm] fuzzie pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/hrKxpg
[11:07] <GitHub81> scummvm/master cac7be4 Alyssa Milburn: ANDROID: Remove plugins/unpacker from makefile.
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[11:07] <fuzzie> should fix the nightly buildbot runs.
[11:07] <DrMcCoy> Yay :)
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[11:22] <fuzzie> the OS X ppc problem is kind of unsolvable. the package step creates a static build and you can't do that any more, the binary ends up too big.
[11:22] <DrMcCoy> fuzzie: damn :/
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[11:31] <DrMcCoy> eriktorbjorn: If there is a German demo of Zork: Grand Inquisitor, it's not on my collection of magazine CDs
[11:32] <DrMcCoy> Not really many adventure demos on there in either case
[11:32] <DrMcCoy> Demos of Monkey 4, Gabriel Knight 3 I've seen
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[11:45] <m_kiewitz> Yathzee Police Quest 1 VGA 2/3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-NnOYuv30I
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[11:47] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
[11:54] <somaen> DrMcCoy: We don't have a german MI4 (or Grim Fandango) demo available on residualvm.org at the moment.
[11:55] <DrMcCoy> Dammit
[11:55] <DrMcCoy> I just put them away again

[11:56] <DrMcCoy> Okay, okay
[11:56] <somaen> No stress though.
[11:56] <somaen> We can wait untill the discs accidentally fall into your computer again.
[11:56] <Lightkey> sag niemals nie
[11:58] <somaen> Not even a detection entry for that demo.
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[11:58] <DrMcCoy> While I'm at it:
[11:59] <DrMcCoy> fuzzie: Do you need a German demo of Icewind Dale?
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[12:03] <somaen> Btw, the ScummVM demo page is weird
[12:04] <somaen> the Indy 4 entry has Indy 3 in it's drop down.
[12:04] <fuzzie> DrMcCoy: 'need', no.. :p
[12:04] <somaen> I suppose there is a reason why indy3 & loom has zak as game target too?
[12:06] <m_kiewitz> somaen: http://www.gamona.de/downloads/monkey-island-4-flucht-von-monkey-island,demo:download,1492461.html
[12:06] <m_kiewitz> i hope that it's the German one, haven't downloaded it
[12:06] <somaen> That's the 44 MB version
[12:07] <aquadran> no movie version?
[12:07] <aquadran> intro
[12:07] <somaen> The EMI demos come in small medium large
[12:07] <somaen> small is no voice
[12:07] <somaen> medium is no intro
[12:07] <somaen> large is full
[12:08] <m_kiewitz> ah
[12:08] <DrMcCoy> fuzzie: Well, do you want it
[12:09] <fuzzie> sure
[12:09] <DrMcCoy> One CD also says it has "Video-Specials" of Grim Fandango and Baldur's Gate
[12:09] <DrMcCoy> Trailer, I guess?
[12:10] <somaen> Might be, would be interesting if a proper german demo existed.
[12:10] <DrMcCoy> Gonna check after I executing wine monkeyisland.exe :P
[12:10] <somaen> Even though the problems we've had with german versions probably won't apply, it's a matter of completeness.
[12:11] <somaen> (Apparently the german publisher added a copy protection to the discs that makes copying the files to disc.... interesting)
[12:11] <Vanfanel> retroarch
[12:11] <Vanfanel> oops
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[12:12] <aquadran> somaen: this demo exe file is broken
[12:13] <somaen> oh?
[12:13] <aquadran> can not execute or unpack
[12:13] <somaen> Ah, right
[12:14] <m_kiewitz> somaen: tada: http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/unterhaltung/artikel/monkey-island-4-flucht-von-monkey-island-17751/
[12:14] <m_kiewitz> 113MB, should be the full one
[12:14] <DrMcCoy> somaen: The speech is apparently still in English, at least ResidualVM plays it in English. German subtitles, though
[12:16] <somaen> Is it detected by ResidualVM as is?
[12:16] <somaen> If you should happen to have a nightly
[12:16] <DrMcCoy> It is
[12:17] <DrMcCoy> Not a nightly, though
[12:17] <DrMcCoy> ResidualVM 0.2.0gitaf44ec1 (Jul 27 2014 21:54:03)

[12:17] <DrMcCoy> Gonna update :P
[12:17] <somaen> DrMcCoy: The release-builds lack EMI-support, but anything non-release with EMI enabled should be fine
[12:17] <somaen> atleast for detection
[12:17] <somaen> Although Jul 27 is indeed a bit old.
[12:18] <DrMcCoy> The demo doesn't run in Wine
[12:18] <DrMcCoy> Says I need to put in the CD...
[12:18] <somaen> That's odd, the english one worked in some version of Wine I tried.
[12:18] <somaen> Oh right
[12:18] <somaen> you need to run it with -cd -gl
[12:19] <DrMcCoy> Yes, then it works
[12:19] <DrMcCoy> Yeah, English video with Wine too
[12:19] <somaen> The entire game is dubbed in the full version.
[12:20] <somaen> But if atleast the text is in german, then that constitutes a different demo.
[12:20] <DrMcCoy> I know
[12:20] <DrMcCoy> I've got the full German version of MI4 somewhere here
[12:20] <somaen> Yeah, same here, as you might remember :P
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[12:21] <aquadran> I can not unpack this one too, wierd
[12:22] <DrMcCoy> Oh, the "video specials" of Grim Fandango and Baldur's Gate are short German reviews of the games. In MPEG-1 format
[12:22] <DrMcCoy> How...useful
[12:22] <somaen> aquadran: Perhaps you need german windows for it?
[12:22] <somaen> :P
[12:22] <aquadran> haha, maybe :)
[12:24] <somaen> 16 bit installer atleast
[12:24] <DrMcCoy> fuzzie: Okay, the Icewind Dale demo is 651MB on the disc
[12:25] <somaen> aquadran: The 31191_deucomplete.exe one starts in crossover here
[12:25] <somaen> atleast the installer comes past 0% in the "bitte warten" section
[12:25] <aquadran> hmm let me try with winxp
[12:25] <somaen> Got stuck at 43% though
[12:27] <m_kiewitz> DrMcCoy: upload those to youtube, plz
[12:27] <m_kiewitz> DrMcCoy: and in case you can't, send them to me and I will upload them
[12:27] <somaen> m_kiewitz: Would that be entirely... legal?
[12:27] <m_kiewitz> hmm, who made those reviews?
[12:27] <DrMcCoy> GameStar
[12:27] <m_kiewitz> do they still exist?
[12:28] <DrMcCoy> Yes
[12:28] <m_kiewitz> damn, ok forget it
[12:28] <m_kiewitz> any trailers on that disc?
[12:28] <DrMcCoy> No
[12:28] <m_kiewitz> :(
[12:29] <DrMcCoy> Only those reviews (and of Tomb Raider 3, Settlers 3, Fifa 99, Falcon 4.0, Kings Quest 8 and Heroes of Might & Magic 3)
[12:29] <aquadran> somaen: here crossover installing
[12:29] <DrMcCoy> And the full version of Master of Orion 2
[12:36] <Lightkey> http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/baldurs-gate/videos/36221.html it's probably the Test-Video? everything with that green plus circle means you have to pay at least an Euro per month to view
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[12:45] <DrMcCoy> Lightkey: Yes, looks like it
[12:46] <DrMcCoy> The Lenght fits
[12:46] <DrMcCoy> Yeah, the shot from the still is at 1:24
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[18:49] <wjp> oh, fun, d70503cc984205 pretty much broke zvision on case-sensitive file systems
[18:49] <wjp> by just ripping out the case-sensitivity code with the commit message "cleanup"
[18:52] <DrMcCoy> :(
[18:54] <clone2727> "if (path.size())" -- eek
[18:55] <wjp> at least that _works_ :-)
[18:55] <eriktorbjorn> wjp: Is this about the bug report that the ZVision games crash on startup?
[18:55] <wjp> yes
[18:55] <wjp> #6775
[18:56] <wjp> oh, and we can't just revert this commit because it has an "Also, add handling for ..." part
[18:56] Action: wjp grumbles
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[19:17] <DrMcCoy> And this is why you don't stuff several things into one commit :(
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[19:30] <GitHub196> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/IUWN7w
[19:30] <GitHub196> scummvm/master 7c23eae Filippos Karapetis: ZVISION: Fix path handling in case-sensitive file systems (bug #6775)...
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[19:33] <clone2727> Shouldn't there also be a check for where the segfault happened?
[19:33] <m_kiewitz> horray, i just got Manhunter 1+2 PC CIB in very good condition :)
[19:35] <eriktorbjorn> m_kiewitz: Are those any good? I remember reading a rather negative review, though at the time it was written the games were probably at least a couple of years old.
[19:36] <m_kiewitz> eriktorbjorn: they are a bit weird, but it's nice to have as a collector
[19:36] <wjp> clone2727: it "crashed" with a failed assert
[19:36] <m_kiewitz> and all the goodies are included (except for a passport, that was included with Manhunter 2)
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[19:36] <GitHub110> [scummvm] DrMcCoy pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/FCbPZg
[19:36] <GitHub110> scummvm/master 3f66f28 Sven Hesse: ZVISION: Remove trailing whitespace
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[19:37] <eriktorbjorn> m_kiewitz: Other than that, I was about to say that https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2E529420FE6B3111 makes the first game look rather unforgiving, even by Sierra standards.
[19:37] <clone2727> wjp: Yeah, but shouldn't there have been a check before the read() call to ensure the file was valid? (Not that I know the code well)
[19:37] <m_kiewitz> yes, i have watched that, lol
[19:37] <waltervn> I loved the manhunter games.. been looking for good affordable boxed copies on ebay for a while now
[19:38] <m_kiewitz> waltervn: manhunter 1 for 28EUR and manhunter 2 for 25EUR. both include 5 1/4" and 3 1/2". Are any of those missing in the detection code?
[19:39] <waltervn> No idea, as I don't have the game myself
[19:40] <m_kiewitz> i will keep my ebay search. when i find another one, i will tell you. btw. i will try to get 2 japanese pc9801 games next week
[19:41] <m_kiewitz> space quest 4 + qfg1 (again)
[19:41] <m_kiewitz> it looks good atm, both have no bids and are at 2000 Yen
[19:41] <waltervn> why are you buying another qfg1?
[19:42] <m_kiewitz> well, my copy is the dual pack with pq2 and qfg1, i want to get that japanese qfg1 box
[19:42] <m_kiewitz> and i would want to get sq4 anyway, so it makes sense to get both
[19:42] <m_kiewitz> i can send you the rest, if you want :P
[19:42] <waltervn> I have sq4 and qfg1 but not pq2
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[19:43] <GitHub180> [scummvm] clone2727 pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/LCq0-g
[19:43] <GitHub180> scummvm/master db64442 clone2727: COMMON: Fix strict-alignment READ_BE_UINT64 on LE and READ_LE_UINT64 on BE
[19:43] <GitHub180> scummvm/master 79c9023 clone2727: TEST: Use "/usr/bin/env python" as the shebang line in cxxtestgen.py
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[19:43] <m_kiewitz> im still waiting for the remaining games, there are quite a few left
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[19:56] <wjp> clone2727: oh, oops; missed those. Thanks
[19:56] <clone2727> wjp: np. Happened to find it after pulling up my ppc mac
[19:57] <clone2727> Then I tried to run the tests... python 2.3.5 seems to be quite ancient these days
[19:57] <clone2727> So, built my own and ran into the other problem ;)
[20:00] <clone2727> eek
[20:00] <clone2727> wrong author/email on there, damn
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[20:04] <clone2727> sorry about that, thought I had it set up properly on there...
[20:05] <clone2727> not worth a force push, though
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[20:20] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: If I remember correctly, it was you I asked about a Mac version of "Just Grandma And Me" that ScummVM doesn't recognize. Should I file a bug report about it?
[20:20] <clone2727> There already is one
[20:21] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: Ok.
[20:22] <clone2727> (bug #6294)
[20:24] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: That one says the game was recognized. Mine isn't.
[20:24] <clone2727> eriktorbjorn: As it says in the comments, detection was added
[20:26] Action: eriktorbjorn tries to find the word "detection" anywhere in the comments.
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[20:38] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: My "BookOutline" file seems to be a bit different than the one in that bug report. Though it looks like it's just some minor formatting differences.
[20:44] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: I was wrong, there were a few other changes as well.
[20:46] <clone2727> The slash is the same issue as with yours, though
[20:46] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: Yes.
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[20:53] <fuzzie> blub
[20:53] <fuzzie> hm, did I not commit slashies ix? :(
[20:53] <fuzzie> fix
[20:53] <fuzzie> eriktorbjorn: you have this to test with?
[20:55] <eriktorbjorn> fuzzie: I have the game files copied for the CD, yes.
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[20:57] <eriktorbjorn> fuzzie: And from what I remember, it's just the detection and the file names that keep it from running.
[20:57] <fuzzie> eriktorbjorn: what filenames do you end up with?
[20:58] <fuzzie> e.g. what's the top-level directory beginning with "SpR" called?
[21:00] <eriktorbjorn> fuzzie: It's called SpR/O on the CD.
[21:00] <fuzzie> but what did you copy it to? :)
[21:00] <eriktorbjorn> fuzzie: You can probably see it in the BookOutline file I attached to that bug report.
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[21:02] <eriktorbjorn> fuzzie: I don't think "hfsutils" can copy entire folders (or maybe it can and I just haven't found how). For some reason, I named that folder SpR-O but I don't remember why because other folders have names like JpR_O.
[21:03] <fuzzie> well, the reason I ask is that we need a consistent naming scheme :-)
[21:03] <clone2727> As pointed out, for pegasus, I use the underscore as the replacement character (after trying the colon in place of the slash)
[21:06] <eriktorbjorn> I probably used - because hfsutils converts / to - (and, for some reason, space to _) in file names. But it's all the same to me, really.
[21:07] <eriktorbjorn> Anyway, I care much more about the ZVision games, so please don't let me distract from those. ;-)
[21:08] <fuzzie> if it helps, I don't care at all about the ZVision games :-)
[21:08] <clone2727> Yeah, I'm in the same boat ;)
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[21:09] <eriktorbjorn> Any game that has the line "Your sword is blowing glue!" is worth playing at least once.
[21:15] <Trixar_za> what
[21:18] <Lightkey> if I know what you mean
[21:22] <Lightkey> https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/556919892067487744 Under a Killing Moon streaming now
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[21:28] <Yasu> Hi! I'm Guybrush Threepwood, a mighty pirate!

[21:31] <Yasu> Um ... well ... you fight like a cow!
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[21:33] <Yasu> Finished Monkey Island 3 yesterday with ScummVM. It was a great game! :D
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[21:33] <clone2727> s/was/is
[21:34] <Yasu> Well, yeah, true :)
[21:35] <Yasu> I was glad to be able to finish it. I've had problems with Full Thottle. It always crashes when I try to return to Marlenes uncle Pete's mink farm to confront the two goons.
[21:35] <clone2727> Did you file a bug report?
[21:35] <Yasu> No. I just stop playing and didn't play anthing for a while.
[21:36] <clone2727> Doesn't really help us if there's a bug out there that's not reported :)
[21:36] <Yasu> I wasn't sure how much support I could get anyway. I play on MorphOS :p
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[21:37] <clone2727> We still have at least one crazy person using Amiga, so that's nothing worse
[21:37] <Yasu> You callin' me crazy? :p
[21:37] <clone2727> Yes :
[21:37] <clone2727> )
[21:37] <Yasu> Hah!
[21:37] <Yasu> Well ... I am rubber, you are glue!
[21:38] <Yasu> So, would it make sense to file a bug report?
[21:39] <clone2727> Yes, please!
[21:39] <Yasu> I have no idea if it's MorphOS specific, or ScummVM specific.
[21:40] <Yasu> Okey, I'll load the save file then and take a snapshot of the error message.
[21:40] <Lightkey> hrm, last version for MorphOS was 1.5.0?
[21:40] <Yasu> 1.7.0
[21:40] <clone2727> the debugger popped down with an error message?
[21:40] <Lightkey> on scummvm.org I mean
[21:41] <Yasu> clone2727: Yes, in the game.
[21:41] <Yasu> Lightkey: The latest version for MorphOS can be found here: http://morphos-files.net/find.php?find=ScummVM
[21:41] <Lightkey> meaning there is nobody working on maintaining the official port
[21:42] <clone2727> Ah
[21:42] <clone2727> I wasn't aware it was an unofficial port
[21:42] <clone2727> That changes things...
[21:42] <Yasu> Are there official ports?
[21:42] <clone2727> as Lightkey said, 1.5.0
[21:43] <Lightkey> Yasu: http://www.scummvm.org/downloads/
[21:43] <Yasu> Oh? I wasn't aware of that.
[21:43] <Lightkey> by a guy called tomjoad
[21:43] <Yasu> Well, it is ported by Fab, one of the developers of MorphOS. He is pretty talanted. So I don't think he would mess up the source code.
[21:44] <wjp> he did some of the official ones as well
[21:45] <wjp> hm, kind of strange
[21:47] Action: wjp wonders where the sources of those morphos packages on morphos-files.net are
[21:47] <Yasu> wjp: On ScummVM homepage?
[21:48] <wjp> hm?
[21:49] <Yasu> wjp: I'm sorry, what do you mean?
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[21:52] <Yasu> Do I need to log in to file a bug report?
[21:56] <Lightkey> also I see there are two releases for Debian ppc 6.0, shouldn't 1.4.1 be removed?
[21:57] <Yasu> I can't find where to file a report.
[21:57] <wjp> yes, you have to be logged in to SF
[21:58] <wjp> they hide the 'create ticket' button when you're not logged in, sadly
[21:59] <wjp> I should probably remind the SF people tomorrow they should improve that
[22:00] <Yasu> Darn.
[22:00] <Yasu> I really don't want to be a member of even more sites ...
[22:01] <Yasu> Can I e-mail someone this instead?
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[22:04] <GitHub6> [scummvm] clone2727 pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/VS7vEA
[22:04] <GitHub6> scummvm/master e10512c Matthew Hoops: CONFIGURE: Use "powerpc" instead of "ppc" as config.guess outputs...
[22:04] <GitHub6> scummvm/master 762e2ca Matthew Hoops: CONFIGURE: Use -mlongcall on Mac PPC builds...
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[22:07] <Yasu> Anyone?
[22:08] <fuzzie> well, you can mail the list, but probably no-one's going to look at it unless there's a bug report
[22:09] <Yasu> Can someone write one for me then?
[22:09] <clone2727> Can you please just sign up for an account and create the report?
[22:10] <clone2727> (Or, can't you even use open ID now?)
[22:10] <fuzzie> it's presumably the kind of bug which is going to need some testing from your side
[22:11] <Yasu> I see.
[22:11] <Yasu> Sigh. I really don't want to register for yet another forum but ...
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[22:12] <Yasu> I can do that if the problem is takes seriously. MorphOS or not.
[22:12] <Yasu> :)
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[22:14] <wjp> we don't mind the extra challenge :-)
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[22:18] <LordHoto> A sourceforge.net account might also come in handy for reporting bugs to other projects :-P
[22:21] <Yasu> wjp: Good to hear :)
[22:21] <Yasu> LordHoto: True. If I was involved with any ...
[22:24] <Lightkey> it's a slippery slope..
[22:25] <Yasu> Lightkey: Hah!
[22:26] <Strangerke> Arh! Finally! I'm able to pick objects in MM and to use them. Rah :)
[22:28] <clone2727> Strangerke: O_o The key is right under the mat at the beginning
[22:28] <Yasu> How do I attach a save file?
[22:28] <Strangerke> clone2727: not in Martian Memorandum
[22:28] <Yasu> I mean, where do I find it in ScummVM drawer?
[22:28] <clone2727> Strangerke: Get a new acronym!
[22:29] <salty-horse> MarMem
[22:29] <Strangerke> You first!
[22:29] <salty-horse> ManMac
[22:29] <clone2727> Strangerke: It's in our name!
[22:29] <salty-horse> ManMan
[22:29] <salty-horse> SCUMANMAN
[22:29] <Strangerke> indeed. Martian Memorandum is in our name. Bless it!
[22:31] <Yasu> Where does SVM save save files?
[22:31] <clone2727> Yasu: We have no clue where they're saved in MorphOS
[22:31] <Yasu> Where are they saved in Windows?
[22:32] <Strangerke> yasu: In the launcher, check the options
[22:32] <Strangerke> tab 'Paths'
[22:32] <clone2727> https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/blob/master/README#L1552
[22:32] <Strangerke> 'Save Path' is used for that
[22:33] <Yasu> Are they called ".la" files?
[22:33] <Strangerke> .... I don't think so
[22:34] <Strangerke> itr's usually .xxx, where xxx is a 3 digit number
[22:34] <wjp> MI3? comi.s00, comi.s01, etc...
[22:34] <Yasu> It claims that it saves full throttle games in the full throttle folder.
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[22:34] <wjp> oh, right, FT
[22:34] <Yasu> I'll check.
[22:34] <clone2727> probably ft.sxx
[22:34] <wjp> then ft.s00, ft.s01, etc
[22:35] <Yasu> How odd. I can't find it.
[22:36] <Yasu> Ah, wait. Here it is.
[22:39] <Yasu> There. Now I've been a good buy and deserve a cookie :)
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[22:42] <Lightkey> as long as you have it enabled, I'm sure that SourceForge already gave you some
[22:42] <Yasu> :)
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[22:51] <Strangerke> clone2727: I found a new acronym for Martian Memorandum :)
[22:52] <clone2727> HG
[22:52] <Strangerke> something unused yet in the project :)
[22:52] <Strangerke> MAME
[22:52] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: HG? Wouldn't that be Mercurian Memorandum?
[22:53] <clone2727> I was thinking "Horrible Game", but that works too :P
[22:53] <clone2727> *insert Strangerke joke about Myst*
[22:54] <Strangerke> roh, Tex2 isn't an Horrible Game
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[22:56] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: There's a Myst joke/reference in Zork: Grand Inquisitor.
[22:58] <LordHoto> Strangerke: It's just bad? :-P
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[23:01] <clone2727> eriktorbjorn: Strangerke and I have joked for years about bad games, usually with him ending with a Myst insult ;)
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[23:11] <eriktorbjorn> clone2727: Apart from the "acting", I rather enjoyed Myst back when I played it.
[23:11] <eriktorbjorn> Still haven't played Riven, though. I started, but got very frustrated with the constant CD swapping.
[23:12] <fuzzie> good news, eriktorbjorn!
[23:13] <fuzzie> you can copy all the data to your hard drive!
[23:13] <fuzzie> you should go and play it at once.
[23:14] <eriktorbjorn> fuzzie: Well, I usually don't have access to Windows for playing games, and I was under the impression that ScummVM doesn't support it fully yet.
[23:14] <DrMcCoy> I get very frustrated with the contant all of it in Riven :P
[23:14] <fuzzie> you can use wine!
[23:14] <fuzzie> but I think we're almost there with Riven
[23:15] <fuzzie> also with Myst
[23:15] <DrMcCoy> You think drinking a lot of wine would make Riven less awful?
[23:15] <fuzzie> it's blocking on, someone, I forget
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[23:15] <DrMcCoy> Dammit, don't ignore my trolling!
[23:16] <DrMcCoy> :P
[23:16] <LordHoto> DrMcCoy: same strategy as with gob games: get drunk and have a good laugh at them?
[23:16] <LordHoto> oh, sorry, I mean DEV games, of course.
[23:17] <DrMcCoy> >:(
[23:18] <LordHoto> Yasu: I think it would make sense to post what error message you are getting.
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