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[07:35] #scummvm: mode change '+o ajax16384' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [07:37] Electricguy (~quassel@78-69-6-109-no123.tbcn.telia.com) joined #scummvm. [07:37] Electricguy (~quassel@78-69-6-109-no123.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [07:38] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [07:40] jammm (~jam@113.193.135.235) joined #scummvm. [07:41] Odd... The speech in the in-progress version of The Case of the Serrated Scalpel has been sounding distorted for days, and now all of a sudden it doesn't. Then again, the wave form still looks like this, so I assume there's still *something* wrong about it: http://www.update.uu.se/~d91tan/ScummVM/coff101.png [07:41] Electricguy (~quassel@78-69-6-109-no123.tbcn.telia.com) joined #scummvm. [07:42] jamm (~jam@113.193.135.235) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:48] Heh, that looks bad [07:48] Badly decoded differentials? [07:50] jammm (~jam@113.193.135.235) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:54] wjp: I have no idea. I don't really understand the decodeSample() function, though it looks a bit like what's described at http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=Creative_8_bits_ADPCM [07:56] Yeah, looks similar [07:56] So that note about how the information may be incorrect is, of course, a bit worrying... [07:58] Also irrelevant since there's no real reason to look at that :-) [07:59] We need the decoder from sherlock anyway [08:01] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Quit: „Wahrlich, keiner ist weise, der nicht das Dunkel kennt.“ (Hermann Hesse) [08:10] jamm (~jam@113.193.135.235) joined #scummvm. [08:10] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@x4d03c436.dyn.telefonica.de) joined #scummvm. [08:10] #scummvm: mode change '+o m_kiewitz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:10] wjp: Well, I can't be of any help there. 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[08:24] ST (~ScottT@ppp14-2-123-204.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [08:26] eriktorbjorn: which game are you talking about? [08:39] Sherlock [08:40] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Quit: „Wahrlich, keiner ist weise, der nicht das Dunkel kennt.“ (Hermann Hesse) [08:41] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [08:41] ignalina (~pettersjo@c-ebc3e555.044-303-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: ignalina [08:42] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Client Quit [08:43] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [08:51] wjp: my copy has arrived at DJWillis, soon I will be able to help out [08:57] waltervn (~waltervn@541B5492.cm-5-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #scummvm. [08:57] morning [08:57] morning, walter [09:06] m_kiewitz: As wjp said, The Case of the Serrated Scalpel. Something about the audio decoder seems buggy. [09:06] can you extract the problematic audio file? [09:07] i originally wrote a commandline decoder for windows [09:07] and that seemed to work with the sample data that i got [09:07] m_kiewitz: This is what one of the decoded speech files looks like for me if I import it into Audacity. I *think* I used the correct parameters: http://www.update.uu.se/~d91tan/ScummVM/coff101.png [09:07] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Quit: „Wahrlich, keiner ist weise, der nicht das Dunkel kennt.“ (Hermann Hesse) [09:07] 32-bit float? [09:08] m_kiewitz: I imported it as Unsigned 8-bit PCM, mono, 11025 Hz. [09:09] that works for me [09:09] what's wrong with it on your side? [09:09] Strangely enough, when I tried it yesterday it sounded distorted. This morning, it sounds ok, except for a very noticeable "pop" at the end. But it still looks weird in Audacity. [09:10] By distorted I mean I only heard parts of it. [09:10] hmm, i'm getting a pop on at least one of my test examples too [09:11] I guess the "pop" could be because it jumps from the far negative end to 0. [09:11] im not sure how good the sound played in the original interpreter [09:11] If I record the output from DOSBox, it looks nice and centered. [09:11] at least i can clearly understand everything [09:11] can you record the Dosbox audio for me? [09:11] so that i can compare it [09:12] Well, I can only get the final output, that's mixed with music... [09:12] you can't disable music? [09:12] Not sure. Let me check... [09:12] will send you a .wav file of one of my decoded files [09:14] Disabling the music doesn't seem to affect the intro. It still plays music there. [09:14] Maybe I can change the music to something that doesn't play on my computer... [09:15] That worked. Now I just have to wait for the intro to finish... [09:16] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [09:16] _marc` (~marc@p5DDC4E02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #scummvm. [09:19] _sev_ (~sev@scummvm/undead/sev) joined #scummvm. [09:19] #scummvm: mode change '+o _sev_' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [09:23] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Quit: „Wahrlich, keiner ist weise, der nicht das Dunkel kennt.“ (Hermann Hesse) [09:25] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [09:28] eriktorbjorn, are you by any chance using pulseaudio? [09:28] WooShell (woo@ipbcc3081f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #scummvm. [09:29] t0by: Yes. Haven't decided whether or not I need it yet, but... [09:29] Because sometimes pulseaudio clients on my machine fail to set the correct rate. [09:29] t0by: It could account for the distorted playback, but not for the distorded decoding. [09:29] Oh, k, nevermind. [09:30] The screenshot comes from importing the output buffer from the audio decoder into Audacity, not from the playback. [09:42] good meowning =^.^= [09:51] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) left irc: Quit: „Wahrlich, keiner ist weise, der nicht das Dunkel kennt.“ (Hermann Hesse) [09:51] Wishmaster (Wishmaster@ipservice-092-209-056-242.092.209.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [09:53] GitHub89 (~GitHub89@192.30.252.34) joined #scummvm. [09:53] [scummvm] m-kiewitz pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vTTW7 [09:53] scummvm/master a6ceee0 Martin Kiewitz: SCI: qfg1vga: fix script patch sneak into castle... [09:53] GitHub89 (GitHub89@192.30.252.34) left #scummvm. 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[15:09] ced117 (~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:11] ced117 (~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117) joined #scummvm. [15:18] ignalina (~pettersjo@c-ebc3e555.044-303-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: ignalina [15:35] ny00123 (~ny00123@bzq-79-177-168-199.red.bezeqint.net) joined #scummvm. [15:39] t0by (~t0by@host233-202-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:42] t0by (~t0by@host233-202-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #scummvm. [15:42] #scummvm: mode change '+v t0by' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:44] Does ScummVM have a style convention for initialisation lists? [15:47] I don't remember something specifically for that, but there are the general Code Formatting Conventions and and Coding Conventions at http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Developer_Central [16:00] Yeah, it's not mentioned, but thanks. [16:02] You can also look at the existing engines, see how they're formatted [16:03] For example, here's how I do it in the latest Sherlock engine: https://github.com/dreammaster/scummvm/blob/sherlock/engines/sherlock/scalpel/scalpel.cpp [16:04] It follows our rules for curly braces and spacing, so any initialization list should look more or less similiar [16:05] t0by (~t0by@host233-202-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:07] t0by (~t0by@host233-202-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #scummvm. [16:07] #scummvm: mode change '+v t0by' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:07] I see, thanks for the sample. [16:08] Strangerke (~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [16:17] Strangerke (~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net) joined #scummvm. [16:20] Could you recommend any particularly well-done engines I should focus on for style and organization? 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[16:34] Have fun :) I'm going AFK to have lunch. But there's probably others around that can answer any other questions you might have. [16:34] Sure, enjoy your lunch. [16:49] GitHub132 (~GitHub132@192.30.252.46) joined #scummvm. [16:49] [scummvm] m-kiewitz pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vTIGC [16:49] scummvm/master 3b092e5 Martin Kiewitz: SCI: identifyOffsets() counter variables [16:49] GitHub132 (GitHub132@192.30.252.46) left #scummvm. [16:51] jigqlo (~jappi@dslb-088-072-051-147.088.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de) joined #scummvm. [17:08] clone2727 (~chatzilla@ool-2f105dd5.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Quit: brb [17:12] ST (~ScottT@ppp14-2-125-212.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) joined #scummvm. [17:12] #scummvm: mode change '+o ST' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:13] clone2727 (~clone2727@ool-2f105dd5.dyn.optonline.net) joined #scummvm. [17:13] #scummvm: mode change '+o clone2727' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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Can I can a secondory approval? [18:08] Nick change: RUBICN64 -> peanut_butter [18:10] Nick change: peanut_butter -> RUBICN64 [18:17] Littleboy (~littleboy@c-73-149-98-187.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #scummvm. [18:17] #scummvm: mode change '+o Littleboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:17] dreammaster: Our rules state that everybody needs to comment on it, so a second approval won't really help much at this point. [18:20] Errrmmm.. okay. I'll leave it for now and hope that "everbody" necessary is able to comment on it soon, then [18:22] Let's hope that is the case. [18:24] elQuotho: If you worry about coding style (formatting etc.), the best idea is probably to look at code from common/, graphics/ etc. These are the most widely used parts, and since many people read them when getting familiar with our code base and when working on their engines, they probably have the best chances to match our official standards. 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