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[00:54] <@Strangerke> hi guys
[00:54] <@Strangerke> Poor Paris :'(
[00:55] <SylvainTV> :/
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[01:03] <GitHub161> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/v4Lv5
[01:03] <GitHub161> scummvm/master 0a5e6e1 Eugene Sandulenko: BBVS: Added Russian BBVS...
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[01:20] <@_sev> ugh
[01:20] <@_sev> what is going on in Paris?
[01:21] <@somaen> Just saw the news myself, nothing good.
[01:21] <SylvainTV> 7 attacks
[01:21] <SylvainTV> same time
[01:21] <SylvainTV> they talk about +100 deaths nowo
[01:22] <@somaen> Wasn't those 100 in the concert hall alone?
[01:22] <SylvainTV> yes
[01:22] <@DrMcCoy> And a refugee camp in Calais is burning, possibly as "retaliation". Because people are horrible :(
[01:22] <SylvainTV> ah ?
[01:22] <SylvainTV> didn't know that
[01:22] <SylvainTV> and they don't tell anythnig about that in the news
[01:23] <@somaen> Yeah, the slippery slope of "tit-for-tat".
[01:23] <@somaen> Where exactly who isn't as important as getting some revenge on someone
[01:23] <@DrMcCoy> Hmm, or it's apparently a hoax: http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/nov/02/calais-refugee-camp-explosion-video
[01:24] <SylvainTV> hmm
[01:24] <@DrMcCoy> (I.e. was apparently earlier this month)
[01:24] <SylvainTV> yea
[01:24] <SylvainTV> no link
[01:25] <@Strangerke> 100 death just in the Bataclan
[01:25] <@DrMcCoy> (I stand by my line that people are horrible, though, then. Starting such a hoax out is also horrible)
[01:25] <@Strangerke> so most likely the body count will be around 300
[01:25] <SylvainTV> oO
[01:26] <@Strangerke> And they are still counting
[01:26] <SylvainTV> now it's 100 for everything.
[01:27] <SylvainTV> you won't know before tomorrow anyway
[01:27] <@DrMcCoy> In either case, anybody here who has loved ones in Paris, please be safe. Take care.
[01:27] <SylvainTV> yep.
[01:27] <@Strangerke> I still try to have news of some members of my family...
[01:29] <@Strangerke> "Religion of peace". Hahaha. Very funny.
[01:30] <@DrMcCoy> 1) It's still not confirmed who's being this 2) Terror knows no religion; this has nothing to do with anything 3) Not helping.
[01:30] <@DrMcCoy> behind*
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[01:35] <@Strangerke> DrMcCoy: They shot during a death metal band concert! Only Hells Angels should be allowed to do that!
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[01:37] <@Strangerke> Also, when someone shots people while shouting "Allahu Akbar"... Religion is involved.
[01:38] <@Strangerke> And I would say the same if the same guy was shouting "The illuminated Short Grey is the only God"
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[09:43] <@Strangerke> LeChuck! Welcome back! :)
[09:44] <@m_kiewitz> horray LeChuck is back
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[11:32] <rootfather> good morning everyone
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[12:42] <rootfather> folks, can I have your opinion regarding http://sourceforge.net/p/scummvm/feature-requests/698/ ?
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[13:37] <@Strangerke> rootfather: Wouldn't it imply that users expect the forums to be translated as well? Also, how long would it take when we want to make a new announcement?
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[13:49] <rootfather> Strangerke: I could make a very clear statement on the website that the project's main language is still english and that forums won't get translated. I saw similar statements in the german pages on the wiki and on the german news file, where it's written that communication with the team should be english only
[13:50] <rootfather> translations of new announcements shouldn't take more than a few hours maximum, since I'm watching the scummvm-web repository in my github account
[13:52] <rootfather> You could simply post new announcements as usual on the english main page, and I'll do the translation after you published the annoucement
[13:52] <rootfather> so the english website wouldn't be affected at all
[13:53] <@DrMcCoy> Another thing: do you think you will have adaquate free time to keep this maintained?
[13:55] <@DrMcCoy> It would be bad if, a few announcements in, you suddenly don't have time anymore and you strop translating
[13:55] <@DrMcCoy> stop*
[14:00] <rootfather> I surely can't promise that I have enough time to keep it maintained for all times
[14:01] <rootfather> but I can promise that I'll do my very best to do it as long as possible
[14:01] <rootfather> usually, I don't tend to leave projects without finding a successor ;)
[14:01] <@DrMcCoy> Okay :)
[14:06] <@Strangerke> criezy: opinion?
[14:07] <@Strangerke> rootfather: criezy is leading and organizing the translation effort
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[14:11] <rootfather> okay, let's wait for his opinion :)
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[14:15] <rootfather> regardless of this decision, would it be okay in terms of copyright and trademark stuff if I would buy and use a domain like scummvm-de.org for this translated website?
[14:15] <rootfather> or is there some trademark protection on the term "scummvm"
[14:17] <@criezy> For reference, this was discussed in the past:
[14:17] <@criezy> https://sourceforge.net/p/scummvm/mailman/scummvm-devel/thread/D94EFA68-92AA-4752-86AA-CB04618AF9CA%40scummvm.org/
[14:18] <@criezy> Not everybody agreed with it, but the general idea was that it was a good idea (and I agreed, and still agree with that)
[14:19] <@criezy> The main issue is indeed not stoping in the middle, after a few months, but keeping it a continuous effort
[14:19] <@criezy> And this is my main worry.
[14:20] <@criezy> For example in the wiki, there was a start to translate it, or at least the user guide, but it is not finished and there was very little progress lately.
[14:22] <rootfather> I can only speak for myself - I'll try my best to keep the translated announcements coming in for as long as possible
[14:24] <rootfather> in case the whole thing is too "unstable" to make it an official scummvm project I would be happy to maintain the german website myself and mark it as somewhat inofficial
[14:25] <rootfather> no problem for me, as long as I can use a domain like scummvm-de.org (scummvm.de is unfortunately taken :/)
[14:25] <rootfather> therefore my question about trademark stuff
[14:25] <@DrMcCoy> As far as I personally am aware, we have no trademark on ScummVM
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[14:26] <@DrMcCoy> At least no registered anywhere
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[14:29] <@DrMcCoy> It might be argued that we have ownership over the name by our long-term use of it, but that would need to be argued in court AFAIK. While a registered trademark can often be used to convince a hoster or domain registrar
[14:30] <@DrMcCoy> Ah, scummvm.de is held by a squatter, so that's probably not an option anyway
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[14:32] <@criezy> That reminds me that there is an unofficial web site in French: www.scummvm.fr
[14:32] <@criezy> But it has apparently not been updated for a while (the download links are to version 1.0.0)
[14:33] <@DrMcCoy> criezy: Possible that in that case, the owner would be happy to give us the domain if we asked (and had plans for a French translation)
[14:33] <rootfather> yeah scummvm.de is take :(
[14:33] <rootfather> DrMcCoy, I'll only take scummvm-de.org in case everyone is totally fine with it ;)
[14:34] <@DrMcCoy> scummvm-de.org is a bit...eeeh
[14:34] <@DrMcCoy> I don't really like it
[14:35] <@DrMcCoy> It's too convulted and non-obvious
[14:35] <rootfather> yeah, I know
[14:35] <rootfather> but there seems to be a lack of alternatives
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[14:38] <rootfather> the squatter who owns scummvm.de want's at least 90€ for the domain... and I doubt we can get it that "cheap"
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[15:03] <rootfather> DrMcCoy, do you have a better proposal for a domain for the german version?
[15:04] <@DrMcCoy> No, not really
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[16:04] <rootfather> I think I'll start the whole thing kinda private and inofficial and come back to make it official if its sort of established ;)
[16:04] <rootfather> maybe the best procedure for everyone
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[19:50] <rootfather> I have a question regarding the website in general left
[19:50] <rootfather> is there some database behind the website or are all announcements just stored in the xml files within the data directory?
[19:51] <rootfather> so no "backend", just create the xml files for the announcements and done?
[19:53] <Henke37> it's all open source, so take a look yourself if you want the exact story
[19:53] <rootfather> I've seen that it's open source, I wasn't sure if there's something necessary for running the website that's not included in the repository
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[19:58] <LordHoto> rootfather: Pretty sure it's all included.
[20:00] <rootfather> thank's, I'll dig into it :)
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[20:13] <m_kiewitz> scummvm.org seems to be down
[20:13] <m_kiewitz> I'm getting "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading."
[20:14] <m_kiewitz> and sourceforge gives me "Pale Moon can't find the server at sourceforge.net."
[20:14] <m_kiewitz> o_O
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[20:23] <WindlePoons> hi, SF down &
[20:23] <clone2727> WindlePoons: And? :P

[20:23] <clone2727> Clearly, that means the universe is rejecting your bug! ;)
[20:24] <clone2727> What was the bug?
[20:24] <WindlePoons> pah :D
[20:24] <WindlePoons> crash on bbvs-win
[20:24] <WindlePoons> when playing mini game Court Chaos
[20:27] <WindlePoons> http://pastie.org/10557159
[20:27] <WindlePoons> but not allways
[20:33] <Henke37> can you get a full stack trace?
[20:34] <WindlePoons> i looking
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[20:39] <dreammaster> Woohoo. I just finished implementing support for the third variation of RTLink executables in my decoding tool. \o/. Hopefully now any type of RTLink executable can be processed for easier disassembly
[20:42] <WindlePoons> kill
[20:42] <WindlePoons> sorrx ;)
[20:42] <madmoose> dreammaster: link? :)
[20:43] <WindlePoons> gdb don't start scummvm&
[20:44] <madmoose> I made McCoy walk to the fire hydrant. Backwards, though...
[20:44] Action: DrMcCoy walks backwards
[20:45] <dreammaster> https://github.com/roguevm/roguevm-tools
[20:46] <dreammaster> Not really specificially for RogueVM, but I figured it was a good way to start of it's own tools repository ;)
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[21:12] <WindlePoons> Henke37, here the output from gdb http://pastie.org/10557230
[21:13] <Endy> DrMcCoy: Thanks again for the logs :)
[21:13] <DrMcCoy> Sure, no problem :)
[21:13] <clone2727> Endy: What, no backup drive? :P
[21:14] <DrMcCoy> WindlePoons: You should have done a "bt" before the quit, to get a backtrace of where it fails
[21:14] Action: Endy looks very nausious
[21:14] <WindlePoons> ah
[21:18] <WindlePoons> thats better and longer http://pastie.org/10557235 :)
[21:19] <WindlePoons> when right click then freeze
[21:24] <WindlePoons> this another freeze without right click http://pastie.org/10557241
[21:29] <Henke37> isAnySoundPlaying should probably never generate a bad sound id
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[21:35] <Henke37> ok, now this raises a question: WHY does the isAnySoundPlaying function even HAVE a count argument
[21:35] <Henke37> that is a structure problem
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[21:37] <Henke37> this particular callsite has the count hardcoded
[21:37] <wjp> yes, and wrongly
[21:38] <Henke37> I have no idea what this game is and I still managed to debug this problem
[21:38] <wjp> good for you?
[21:38] <Henke37> good for me indeed
[21:39] <wjp> do you have any interest in improving the interface, or shall I just commit the typo fix?
[21:39] <Henke37> make the isAnySoundPlaying already know the count from elsewhere
[21:39] <Henke37> and remove the argument
[21:40] <wjp> obviously
[21:40] <wjp> but the question is if you're interested in doing that
[21:40] <wjp> if not, I'm just going to commit the typo fix
[21:40] <Henke37> not interested in doing fixes I can't test myself
[21:42] <wjp> I see
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[21:43] <GitHub41> [scummvm] wjp pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/v4Yss
[21:43] <GitHub41> scummvm/master 5d6f924 Willem Jan Palenstijn: BBVS: Fix typo in array size...
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[21:53] <WindlePoons> good night
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[22:33] <GitHub108> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/v4YR8
[22:33] <GitHub108> scummvm/master b9b8eab Eugene Sandulenko: IMAGES: WIP for 16-bit MS Video1 decoder
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[22:36] <_sev> weird, cannot find why the videos are of wrong size
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[22:59] <Henke37> well, start with the basics, is the detected raw video dimensions correct?
[23:00] <_sev> Henke37: yes
[23:01] <Henke37> is it a fullscreen video or some more interesting setup?
[23:02] <Henke37> I am not even going to ask if the main game resolution is correct. getting that much wrong would be incredibly obvious
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[23:27] <LordHoto> Henke37: Is github acting strangely or did you remove your comment "Nonsense computation: oring a bitmasked value with all masked out bits set. Always results in the same value."?
[23:27] <Henke37> I removed it, since I was wrong
[23:27] <Henke37> somehow I managed to mix up xor and or
[23:28] <LordHoto> I see, I wanted to look up where you made that comment because it sounded like nonsense.
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[23:54] <Henke37> hmm, I wonder, do I have an unique demo not listed in the hashes? one way to find out!
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[23:59] <Henke37> nope, looks like it's recognised
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