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[00:02] <m_kiewitz> and I guess someone should finally implement horizontal shakes into scummvm system, that's still missing for SCI, but i don't want to implement that inside SCI itself
[00:07] <snover> m_kiewitz: that video is someone playing the dos version in an emulator
[00:07] <m_kiewitz> it is?
[00:07] <snover> System details: Mac OS 10.7.5 [&] Boxer 1.3.1
[00:07] <m_kiewitz> argh
[00:07] <snover> boxer: http://boxerapp.com/
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[00:08] <GitHub163> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6zeC
[00:08] <GitHub163> scummvm/master 9c11611 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented CDoorbot class
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[00:12] <snover> m_kiewitz: looks like kSetNowSeen got a free upgrade somewhere between the SCI2.1mid SQ6, and the SCI2.1mid Torin :|
[00:12] <m_kiewitz> argh
[00:12] <m_kiewitz> and then they ignore missing screen objects?
[00:12] <m_kiewitz> wonderful
[00:13] <m_kiewitz> we should at the very least print out a warning
[00:13] <m_kiewitz> maybe siera "fixed" a bug by doing that :/
[00:22] <snover> phant1 uses the true/false one too
[00:32] <m_kiewitz> sigh
[00:33] <snover> i really need to get a list of release dates for all of these games
[00:34] <m_kiewitz> http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Sierra_Game_Versions#SCI21_.28early.29
[00:34] <m_kiewitz> quite a few are filled out
[00:34] <m_kiewitz> i add the dates when possible
[00:37] <snover> ugh. thank you. why do i always forget about this page.
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[01:01] <GitHub145> scummvm/master af85a2a Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented CLiftBot class
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[01:44] <GitHub143> scummvm/master 14cdfa3 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented CMaitreD class
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[03:43] <GitHub49> scummvm/master c6c76e7 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: In-progress implementing CParrot class
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[06:10] <rootfather> wow, nice that ScummVM is now compatible with the Ubuntu Snap format
[06:10] <rootfather> even though I doubt it's a good idea to invent yet another package format, but well...
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[07:04] <Deledrius> yeah :/
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[07:50] <GitHub13> scummvm/master 62656b8 Eugene Sandulenko: FULLPIPE: Swap atan2 arguments
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[09:09] <rootfather> oh, snapcraft isn't ubuntu specific?
[09:09] <rootfather> I always thought it's yet another thing canonical created to make Ubuntu incompatible with the rest of the linux world.
[09:10] <rootfather> and yes, I don't like the way ubuntu is evolving.
[09:10] <t0by> Me, I don't like the way Ubuntu is Facebook to Debian's usenet.
[09:11] <t0by> Then again I guess they contribute a lot.
[09:12] <rootfather> I have mixed feelings about Ubuntu... they clearly made Linux kinda popular on the desktop back in 2004.... but now they are doing they own thing and don't seem to care much about compatibility
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[09:19] <t0by> rootfather, tbh I don't actually get Ubuntu's popularity. In 2004 it was about the only actually usable distro, but nowadays it's essentially a borked Debian stable.
[09:20] <t0by> I suppose they are doing something right with the corporate segment, though.
[09:20] <t0by> including partnering with hardware makers.
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[09:32] <Strangerke> t0by: I think Knoppix was even more stable than Ubuntu, back in 2004
[09:33] <t0by> Ooooh Knoppix.
[09:33] <t0by> I had forgotten about its existence.
[09:34] <t0by> The live CD was big fun on a 16x drive.
[09:34] <t0by> *click*
[09:34] <t0by> *bzz bzz clackity clackity whirrrr whirrrr*
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[09:44] <rootfather> Knoppix.... this was actually the very very first linux distribution I ever used.
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[09:44] <rootfather> sure, it took about 20 Minutes to load the full KDE on my 233MHz Pentium II with 32MB of RAM, but hey.
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[09:46] <t0by> Good times, eh?
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[09:52] <rootfather> yep
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[09:58] <m_kiewitz> damn, Gabriel Knight Mac is currently available on ebay, but it's 100 EUR :(((
[09:59] <m_kiewitz> http://www.ebay.de/itm/GABRIEL-KNIGHT-1-Sins-of-the-Fathers-MAC-3-5-Disketten-im-Originalkarton-RAR-/231759301654
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[10:12] <m_kiewitz> LordHoto got lucky and got the even more rare Freddy Pharkas for Mac for a few bucks only
[10:13] <m_kiewitz> amazon.com 3rd party sellers sell it for $50, although I guess one would have to make sure that they are really selling the Mac version.
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[10:28] <waltervn> morning
[10:31] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
[10:32] <t0by> o/
[10:33] <rootfather> hi waltervn WooShell
[10:36] <m_kiewitz> hey waltervn
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[11:23] <t0by> Are you ready for the most 90s thing you're gonna see today?
[11:23] <t0by> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M414vF0G9Rw
[11:26] <t0by> On a second thought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLTh4uVJduI
[11:28] <m_kiewitz> I raise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI
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[11:31] <GitHub43> [scummvm-web] sev- pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm-web/commit/d58c41c07dfae28d0a61746d24ad6fb243b9053d
[11:31] <GitHub43> scummvm-web/master d58c41c Eugene Sandulenko: WEB: Added Airtpot Dutch demo
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[12:03] <GitHub54> [scummvm] rootfather pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6zcX
[12:03] <GitHub54> scummvm/master 3e06aad Lothar Serra Mari: NEWS: Add detection entry for Dutch airport demo...
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[12:29] <rootfather> if I understand the snap package format correctly, the same package can be applied on all supported linux distros without having to care about dependencies?
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[12:39] <wjp> that sounds like their PR story anyway
[12:41] <wjp> if you're thinking of writing a NEWS entry about it, I'd keep it very neutral without going into what snap is or is trying to be
[12:42] <t0by> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPM1q_Uyxc
[12:42] <t0by> you practically asked for it.
[12:42] <t0by> * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ppF2yK4NM
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[12:49] <rootfather> wjp, jep, I'll do that
[12:50] <rootfather> t0by: Rhythm is a dancer is just great :D
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[12:55] <GitHub45> [scummvm] dreammaster pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v6zWH
[12:55] <GitHub45> scummvm/master 6c3fdca Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Finished CParrot class
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[13:30] <t0by> what
[13:30] <t0by> ^_^
[13:32] <Deledrius> :p
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[15:39] <m_kiewitz> snover: 3rd party sellers on amazon.com seem to sell GK1 Mac atm for $50, which is still quite expensive but cheaper than the one for 100 EUR on ebay
[15:39] <m_kiewitz> just in case you are interested
[15:40] <snover> thanks. not at the moment. tons of work left already just for dos/win.
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[16:17] <GitHub134> scummvm/master 6e1045b Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented CSuccUBus class
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[16:30] <GitHub137> scummvm/master 54a6ec5 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented CSummonBots class
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[16:52] <snover> man. ccache does not want to behave so well when run through xcode. i lose ASan and have linker failures for some reason.
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[16:52] <snover> but its so fast&
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[18:09] <snover> are assert calls removed from release builds? i want to say yes, but i cant remember for sure.
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[18:24] <somaen> assert calls are only in debug builds on the platforms I've developed on at least
[18:24] <somaen> hence assert(doStuff()) is bad(tm)
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[18:29] <wanwan> that actually reminds me that i have several such patterns in my code...
[18:34] <t0by> I think somaen means that's bad when doStuff() has side effects.
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[18:38] <snover> i know :)
[18:40] <snover> i just only see NDEBUG defined in a couple places
[18:40] <snover> ll
[18:40] <snover> oops
[18:48] <snover> wanwan: i dunno, i built with --enable-release and assertions are still triggered. not sure if it is supposed to be that way or not.
[18:50] <snover> outside of gp2x and openpandora build scripts, nothing seems to set NDEBUG to disable assert
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[18:57] <GitHub8> scummvm/master 7e3d91c Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented CTitania class
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[19:41] <GitHub0> scummvm/master e3acf3f Eugene Sandulenko: FULLPIPE: Rename mgm.* to anihandler.*
[19:41] <GitHub0> scummvm/master f99e47d Eugene Sandulenko: FULLPIPE: Rename MGM class to AniHandler
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[19:51] <GitHub100> scummvm/master 35a1ad3 Retro-Junk: FULLPIPE: Add missing list purge in MovGraph2::findMinPath
[19:51] <GitHub100> scummvm/master b670c02 Retro-Junk: FULLPIPE: Rearrange code and fix flags initalization in MovGraph2::buildMovInfo1MessageQueue
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[19:52] <GitHub187> scummvm/master 8ea4366 Paul Gilbert: TITANIC: Implemented CBarMenu and CBarMenuButton classes
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[20:56] <GitHub96> scummvm/master 23e6242 Eugene Sandulenko: FULLPIPE: Rename MovGraph2 to MctlGraph
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