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[07:35] <Strangerke|work> Hi guys
[07:35] <criezy> Hi Strangerke|work
[07:36] <criezy> That reminds me I need to go to work as well.
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[07:38] <Strangerke|work> :)
[07:39] <criezy> Do you know how I can land my blog on the planet?
[07:39] <criezy> Is that something I can do myself or do I have to ask somebody in particular?
[07:40] <Strangerke|work> Just send the URL to _sev and I
[07:40] <Strangerke|work> one of us will add it this evening
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[07:45] <criezy> Thanks. Sent.
[07:45] <criezy> And now I really need to go.
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[08:36] <waltervn> morning
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[09:18] <imarcusthis> L0ngcat: oh hai
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[09:41] <lukaslw> hello everyone ;)
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[10:23] <Strangerke|work> hi lukaslw :)
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[16:11] <WooShell> meow =^.^=
[16:12] <RichieSams|work> where are save file located?
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[16:12] <RichieSams|work> specifically for broken sword 2.5
[16:20] <RichieSams|work> ouch
[16:20] <RichieSams|work> over 700 compiler warnings when compiling ScummVM in 64bit
[16:21] <RichieSams|work> and found the save location
[16:22] <droid2727> ScummVM compiles without warnings for me in 64-bit.
[16:23] <RichieSams|work> does anyone know where to get the 64 bit version of jpeg-static.lib
[16:25] <fuzzie> in the download labelled vc64
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[17:57] <RichieSams|work> I'm getting link errors pointing to ttf and freetype
[17:58] <RichieSams|work> only when I compile x64
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[18:08] <RichieSams|work> which version of freetype do we use?
[18:20] <eriktorbjorn1> RichieSams|work: I only know what the version installed on my computer is apparently 2.5.2.
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[18:35] <fuzzie> RichieSams|work: still stuck?
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[18:44] <RichieSams|work> fuzzie: yes
[18:44] <RichieSams|work> if I try to build freetype from source, I get link errors when building scummvm
[18:44] <RichieSams|work> in both 32 and 64 bit
[18:44] <RichieSams|work> (using latest freetype)
[18:47] <fuzzie> what kind of errors?
[18:48] <RichieSams|work> Error 1 error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol __imp__FT_Init_FreeType referenced in function "public: __thiscall Graphics::TTFLibrary::TTFLibrary(void)" (??0TTFLibrary@Graphics@@QAE@XZ) T:\Programming_Projects\ScummVM\dists\msvc12\ttf.obj
[18:48] <RichieSams|work> they're all similar to that
[18:48] <fuzzie> so, it's expecting to link against a dll version of freetype
[18:49] <RichieSams|work> ah
[18:49] <RichieSams|work> give me a sec then
[18:49] <fuzzie> so maybe you're linking against a non-dll version but not providing scummvm with the correct headers?
[18:49] <RichieSams|work> I built for .lib
[18:49] <RichieSams|work> so that would by it
[18:49] <RichieSams|work> be it*
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[18:50] <fuzzie> well, that shoudl work fine, as long as scummvm links against those headers
[18:50] <fuzzie> I guess that is probably in freetype/config/ftoption.h ?
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[19:22] <RichieSams|work> yay!!!!
[19:23] <RichieSams|work> apparently 2.5.3 has breaking changes
[19:23] <RichieSams|work> 2.5.2 works
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[21:05] <GitHub179> [scummvm] RichieSams pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/obI0Ew
[21:05] <GitHub179> scummvm/master 807d18e Adrian Astley: SWORD25: Make save files x32/x64 agnostic
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[21:07] <GitHub199> [scummvm] RichieSams force-pushed master from 807d18e to 2ec3adf: http://git.io/xtS8kg
[21:07] <GitHub199> scummvm/master 2ec3adf Adrian Astley: SWORD25: Make save files x32/x64 agnostic
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[21:07] <RichieSams|work> sorry for the force
[21:08] <wjp> yikes
[21:08] <wjp> DO NOT do that
[21:08] <wjp> I'm serious
[21:09] <RichieSams|work> noted
[21:09] <RichieSams|work> I'm sorry
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[21:14] <wjp> what does this commit do?
[21:15] <wjp> does it break existing saves? (on some platforms?)
[21:19] <RichieSams|work> on 32 bit platforms yes
[21:19] <RichieSams|work> because SIZES64 is declared
[21:19] <RichieSams|work> which forces things to be 64 bits in some cases
[21:20] <RichieSams|work> as for what it does:
[21:20] <RichieSams|work> in the original code, there was a need to store an offset (an int) on the lua stack
[21:20] <RichieSams|work> the code chose to hack this into a pointer
[21:21] <RichieSams|work> since a pointer is basically free for lua
[21:21] <RichieSams|work> however, it made taking it out of the lua stack a bit hand-wavy, because you then had to cast a pointer back to an int
[21:21] <RichieSams|work> so intead, I just store an int directly
[21:22] <RichieSams|work> the second part of the commit hard casts an offset to be uint64 for both 32bit and 64bit
[21:23] <RichieSams|work> does that answer your question?
[21:24] <fuzzie> what defines SIZES64?
[21:24] <droid2727> that file itself, and under all circumstances
[21:25] <RichieSams|work> ^
[21:27] <fuzzie> and the pi_write is now writing a truncated pointer?
[21:28] <fuzzie> oh no, so it was doing that before
[21:31] <RichieSams|work> the only time anything would be truncated would potentially be when a 32bit binary read a 64bit file
[21:32] <RichieSams|work> but the offsets are very small
[21:32] <RichieSams|work> so I don't believe they will overflow a 32 bit int
[21:32] <wjp> where are thes offsets that you're referring to?
[21:33] <wjp> I haven't dived into lua far enough to see
[21:34] <fuzzie> it reads like the errfunc is a pointer which is always zero
[21:34] <RichieSams|work> https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/commit/2ec3adfad531b7e1f698c338545fb9817f99e5b1#L1749
[21:35] <fuzzie> if so it makes it a bit weird that it used ptrdiff_t at all
[21:35] <RichieSams|work> the documentation says it's an offset to the lua stack
[21:35] <fuzzie> aha
[21:35] <fuzzie> ok, I guess I have to sit down with this when I'm not falling asleep
[21:36] <fuzzie> I also can't tell if pi_write is endian-friendly or not
[21:36] <RichieSams|work> it's not
[21:36] <RichieSams|work> I'm working on that
[21:36] <RichieSams|work> now
[21:37] <fuzzie> ok, yes, so it's L->stack+errfunc
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[21:41] <wjp> so these truncated pointers in persist() were used as keys for reftbl? I don't quite see what you're using as a replacement though
[21:41] <RichieSams|work> values in the reftbl
[21:41] <RichieSams|work> the objects themselves are the keys
[21:41] <wjp> that would be weird
[21:41] <RichieSams|work> when it's persisting, it first looks to see if the object has already been serialized
[21:41] <RichieSams|work> if so, it just stores the offset to it
[21:41] <wjp> ah, right, I was looking at unpersist
[21:41] <RichieSams|work> the offset is just a number for each object that's been stored
[21:41] <RichieSams|work> right, in that case, the keys are the offsets
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[21:42] <wjp> so what is an "offset"?
[21:42] <RichieSams|work> but from what I can tell, the creator of the library wanted to be able to store simple ints on the lua stack
[21:42] <RichieSams|work> however, all numbers in lua are doubles
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[21:43] <RichieSams|work> so they made a hack by storing the offsets as pointers
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[21:45] <RichieSams|work> since pointers don't have any overhead in lua
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[21:45] <wjp> I'm still a few steps behind
[21:45] <wjp> where do offsets come into this at all?
[21:45] <wjp> I'm still at pointers to objects
[21:45] <RichieSams|work> in the persist function, we store a reftbl
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[21:45] <RichieSams|work> the reftbl is just key value table of obj->number
[21:45] <RichieSams|work> as we serialize each object we increment a counter
[21:45] <RichieSams|work> so:
[21:45] <RichieSams|work> serialize
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[21:45] <RichieSams|work> increment
[21:46] <RichieSams|work> insert into reftbl (obj, counter)
[21:46] <RichieSams|work> s/counter/counterCurrValue
[21:46] <RichieSams|work> that way, when we serialize, we can first do a check into the reftbl
[21:47] <RichieSams|work> if we've already serialized the object, we just write the number
[21:47] <RichieSams|work> instead of re-seralizing
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[21:47] <RichieSams|work> then on the flip side
[21:47] <RichieSams|work> when we're de-serializing
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[21:47] <RichieSams|work> we read in each block
[21:47] <RichieSams|work> the block starts with a flag that says (are you a real value or are you a reference)
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[21:48] <RichieSams|work> if it's a real value, we read, and stick it into a reftbl, this time doing key->value as number->obj
[21:48] <RichieSams|work> if it's a reference, we look up the actual value in the reftbl
[21:49] <RichieSams|work> does that answer your questions?
[21:50] <wjp> I see
[21:50] <wjp> still don't see any offsets, but this last bit makes sense, yes
[21:51] <RichieSams|work> in the code, the offsets are reffered to as "ref"
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[21:52] <wjp> so then this is really just fixing a warning and the original truncated write would work just fine?
[21:53] <wjp> (except the persistthread thing of course)
[21:53] <RichieSams|work> yes
[21:54] <RichieSams|work> the thread stuff is a needed change
[21:54] <RichieSams|work> the other is just fixing a warning
[21:55] <RichieSams|work> the truncated write was pretty much guaranteed to work. It would take a massive amount of objects being serialized to overflow
[21:56] <wjp> so by "offset" you just mean the counter?
[21:56] <RichieSams|work> yes
[21:56] <wjp> aha
[21:56] <wjp> you had me completely confused with that word then
[21:56] <RichieSams|work> index
[21:56] <RichieSams|work> that's a better way to say it
[21:56] <RichieSams|work> sorry :(
[21:57] <RichieSams|work> everything clear as mud now? :P
[21:58] <wjp> and errfunc is just an int in disguise too?
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[21:58] <fuzzie> it's used as an offset into a char array, so yes
[21:59] <wjp> charming
[21:59] <RichieSams|work> I'm about to drive home
[21:59] <RichieSams|work> any last questions before I go?
[22:00] <clone2727> Why not just kill off pluto? :P
[22:00] <RichieSams|work> please
[22:00] <RichieSams|work> it's really gross
[22:01] <RichieSams|work> I would do it myself, but LUA baffles me
[22:01] <RichieSams|work> oh question from me
[22:01] <RichieSams|work> do we need to increment the save file id number?
[22:02] <RichieSams|work> since this is a breaking change
[22:02] <RichieSams|work> s/id number/version number
[22:02] <clone2727> I think you answered your own question, really
[22:03] <RichieSams|work> anyone happen to know where it lives?
[22:03] <RichieSams|work> found it
[22:04] <wjp> kernel/persistenceservice.cpp
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[22:05] <GitHub72> [scummvm] RichieSams pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/4S1B9A
[22:05] <GitHub72> scummvm/master 9157138 Adrian Astley: SWORD25: Bump the save file version number...
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[22:06] <criezy> For a momment there I though you asked where pluto lived as you had decided to kill him after all.
[22:06] <RichieSams|work> lol
[22:06] <criezy> So looking in the kennel seemed the logical step
[22:07] <RichieSams|work> well time to drive an hour and 15 minutes home
[22:07] <RichieSams|work> see ya guys
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[23:45] <RichieSams> well that was fun
[23:45] <RichieSams> what happened?
[23:46] <clone2727> broken freenode
[23:47] <RichieSams> ah lol
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