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[00:07] <somaen> Hi RichieSams
[00:07] <RichieSams> Hey somaen
[00:07] <RichieSams> Are you mentoring GSoC again this year?
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[00:27] <somaen> RichieSams: Yes
[00:27] <somaen> I'm mentoring subr3v over at ResidualVM
[00:29] <RichieSams> oh nice
[00:29] <RichieSams> I've been reading the blog posts
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[00:43] <droid2727> more than i've done :P
[00:43] <RichieSams> :P
[00:43] <RichieSams> Well I'll be all graduated in a little over a month.
[00:44] <RichieSams> And I've got a job lined up, so I'm hoping I can start working on ScummVM again
[00:50] <droid2727> oh, i just meant i have no clue about gsoc now ;)
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[00:56] <RichieSams> well either way :P
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[03:27] <Zxcvb> I was just wondering, how well do all the scumm games work with touchscreen only controls and does 1.7.0 have an input configuration dialog?
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[03:43] <GitHub159> [scummvm] clone2727 pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/LFVoBg
[03:43] <GitHub159> scummvm/master 3ddf044 Matthew Hoops: MADE: Error out when a blocks file fails to open
[03:43] <GitHub159> scummvm/master 9b28232 Matthew Hoops: MADE: Error out when a picture cannot be found
[03:43] <GitHub159> scummvm/master bf90d36 Matthew Hoops: MADE: Print v1 database debugging at level 1 instead of all the time
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[06:30] <Begasus> Haiku's port finished :) (both scummvm and scummvm-tools) :)
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[06:43] <Begasus> +53MiB for scummvm ... it's increasing with every release :O
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[06:46] <Begasus> the binary for scummvm on Haiku alone is +126MiB
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[07:43] <Raziel^> has anyone else problems building the cge-tools exe's?
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[07:44] <Raziel^> there is no error message or anything, just no exes of this two tools either
[07:44] <Raziel^> not in the latest branch, nor in 1.7.0-release
[07:45] <Raziel^> i got even the .o files created in tools/engines/cge
[07:45] <Raziel^> but the exe's aren't anywhere to be found
[07:48] <wjp> they may just be part of scummvm-tools-cli
[07:50] <Raziel^> wjp: i thought so too at first, but then...
[07:50] <Raziel^> - Add support for CGE 2 (Sfinx) in extract_cge and pack_cge tools.
[07:51] <Raziel^> this puzzled me
[07:51] <Raziel^> are the two tools in all builds incorporated into scummvm-tools-cli?
[07:51] <wjp> the functions of scummvm-tools-cli are also called "tools"
[07:51] <Raziel^> yes, but the NEWS line above is misleading imho
[07:52] <Raziel^> wjp: yup, scummvm-tools-cli knows about the cge functions :-)
[07:53] <Raziel^> i was fooled again :-)
[07:58] <Begasus> pack_cge and extract_cge also in the tools on Haiku ;)
[07:59] <Raziel^> Begasus: bah
[07:59] <Raziel^> :-)
[07:59] <Begasus> :P
[08:00] <Begasus> well ... wanted to check :P
[08:01] <Raziel^> Begasus: fix tony
[08:01] <Raziel^> :-P
[08:04] <Begasus> I'm not a developer :P (just port for Haiku) ;)
[08:04] <Raziel^> heh, me too, but for AmigaOS
[08:05] <Raziel^> we should join forces and tell somaen to fix wme then
[08:05] <Raziel^> :-D
[08:05] <Raziel^> and fuzzie to fix tony
[08:05] <Raziel^> ;-)
[08:06] <Begasus> ah AmigaOS, there is still a group in Belgium for those ;)
[08:07] <Raziel^> we have groups everywhere on the world, mate, we may not be many, but we are watching...
[08:07] <Raziel^> muahahahaahahahaa
[08:07] <Raziel^> sorry
[08:07] <Raziel^> :-D
[08:08] <Begasus> np, it's about the same with Haiku ;)
[08:08] <Begasus> small base, but still active ;)
[08:11] <Begasus> uploading tgz's for Haiku to dropbox
[08:11] <Raziel^> scummvm builds?
[08:14] <Begasus> yep
[08:15] <Begasus> 1.7.0 is released this night
[08:15] <Raziel^> but, but...official release is the 21st iirc ;-)
[08:16] <Begasus> yeah, but the ports should be up by then iirc
[08:17] <Raziel^> ah, uploaded for the devs to put it on sourceforge

[08:17] <Begasus> feel free to contact Strangerke or me.
[08:17] <Begasus> from the ml ;)
[08:17] <Raziel^> i'll throw mine directly at _sev...
[08:17] <Raziel^> wonder when he starts shouting at me because of this
[08:17] <Raziel^> :-)
[08:18] <_sev> how?
[08:18] <_sev> by e-mail?
[08:19] <Begasus> I usualy upload them somewhere and share it for _sev then ;)
[08:20] <Raziel^> _sev: yes, both
[08:20] <Raziel^> sendspace
[08:20] <Raziel^> at scummvm.org address
[08:20] <_sev> that would work
[08:21] <Raziel^> _sev: you should have already gotten them though, the main package was sent out yesternight
[08:21] <_sev> ah, amigaos. I've uploaded it
[08:22] <Raziel^> \o/
[08:22] <Raziel^> tools package was sent a few minutes ago
[08:25] <_sev> just uploaded that one too. Thanks
[08:27] <Raziel^> thanks a lot
[08:33] <Raziel^> what i'm wondering about is, why hasn't there been any "These bugs would be nice to fix" session this release cycle?
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[08:48] <GitHub82> [scummvm] eriktorbjorn pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/V1sNqw

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[09:15] <Ramal> Anyone that can identify this error MSB6006: "cmd.exe" exited with code 9009.Microsoft.CppCommon.targets line 170 column 5, the file appears to be a xml formatted file with build instructions
[09:32] <Ramal> I guess Ill do a clean reinstall of scummvm, impossible to know if its a regular or irregular error lol
[09:35] <Ramal> I get some of these incidents lol, better to be totally sure they are removed, best way is to install the way the scummvm developers intended. Then I can rule out those kind of problems soon enough.
[09:41] <Ramal> clone faster dammit!
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[09:54] <Begasus> is scummvm build with debug symbols by default? and if so, is it needed for a release?
[09:55] <Raziel^> isn't the "debug" part left out once you configure with --enable-release?
[09:55] <Begasus> one would think so, don't know, asking because of the size for the Haiku package
[09:56] <Raziel^> did it grow?
[09:56] <Begasus> yeah, since 1.5.0 iirc
[09:57] <Raziel^> well, there has been engines added and stuff
[09:57] <Raziel^> have*
[09:57] <Begasus> yeah, but that shouldn't increase that much I think
[09:58] <Raziel^> i think that exactly increases the size :-)
[09:58] <Begasus> just asking, trying to do a build with the disable-debug option later, let's see if that changes anything
[09:58] <Raziel^> try to build a package with only the scumm engine ;-)
[09:58] <Begasus> when I'm trying the first builds I always disable the engines at first ;)
[09:59] <Ramal> THIS IS ANNOYING grr
[10:00] <Ramal> There still seems to be an error with the build file as previous
[10:00] <Ramal> Could I get some help identifying it
[10:00] <Ramal> Its just some lines previous
[10:01] <Begasus> I only build the port here on native Haiku, that should be something for the dev's ;)
[10:01] <Ramal> I have made a fresh clone, but still it doesnt compile
[10:02] <Raziel^> Ramal: the error you posted earlier seems to point towards your build chain, nothing i can do about it, because i don't know how your chain works
[10:03] <Ramal> Its Visual Studio 2013, its a fresh install from MicroSoft....
[10:03] <Raziel^> I heard about that company...there's your problem
[10:03] <Raziel^> ;-)
[10:04] <Ramal> But it worked recently, this is a regression
[10:04] <Ramal> Before my reinstall
[10:05] <Ramal> So there must be a way to convince VS that it indeed CAN compile
[10:05] <Raziel^> still, it says something about "cmd.exe"...which seems to be part of VS2013
[10:05] <Raziel^> have you tried reinstalling VS?
[10:05] <Raziel^> maybe it got flawed on the way?
[10:06] <Ramal> Sure I could try that. Its a new install though, do you really think it got bloated in a week?
[10:07] <Ramal> Thats would be a record even by MS standards
[10:07] <Raziel^> the one thing i learned from ms products is that it will hit you in the face for no obvious reason, the time you least need it
[10:07] <Raziel^> but i don't want you to have more work, i'll advise to wait for the devs that also work with VS
[10:08] <Raziel^> maybe it's a simple config option, who knows
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[10:09] <Ramal> Could be, could be, Ill check for alternative solutions in the mean time
[10:10] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
[10:19] <Ramal> I think I found the problem, its a path issue.
[10:19] <Ramal> The path to nasm.exe is missing.
[10:20] <Ramal> Compiling now
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[10:22] <Begasus> ;)
[10:23] <Begasus> afternoon WooShell :)
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[10:30] <Ramal> Problem Is Solved
[10:30] <Raziel^> \o/
[10:30] <Ramal> Thanks for the help
[10:30] <Raziel^> i didn't do nothing
[10:30] <Begasus> me neither
[10:31] <Raziel^> and now...fix tony
[10:31] <Raziel^> :-D
[10:31] <Ramal> You did a lot, also previously you did a lot
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[10:44] <Begasus> hmm ... looks like it didn't pick up the --disable-debug with running --enable-release :/
[10:44] <Raziel^> They are mutually exclusive
[10:45] <Begasus> did a build without the engines, and even that is quite a bit smaller ...
[10:45] <Begasus> that would probably explain the large size for the Haiku package
[10:45] <Raziel^> you did strip the exe after the build?
[10:46] <Begasus> Haiku doesn't use exe
[10:46] <Raziel^> oh?
[10:46] <Begasus> well not as in "scummvm.exe"
[10:47] <Raziel^> intruiging
[10:47] <Begasus> don't think the linux port is using scummvm.exe also :)
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[10:48] <LordHoto> You might still be able to strip your resulting binary ;-).
[10:49] <LordHoto> But passing --disable-debug and --enable-release should work together.
[10:50] <LordHoto> and I think you should always do that for release binaries...
[10:50] <Begasus> yeah, but was under the impression that --enable-release would take care of that
[10:50] <Raziel^> me too
[10:51] <Raziel^> i haven't used --disable-debug in my release build
[10:51] <LordHoto> Nope, it doesn't.
[10:51] <Raziel^> should probably be mentioned in the release email the next time then :-)
[10:51] <Begasus> anything more to optimize the resulting package? (aside from these 2 options)
[10:52] <Begasus> yeah ;)
[10:52] <LordHoto> Don't think so.
[10:52] <LordHoto> --enable-release will automatically enable optimizations (unlike --enable-release-mode)
[10:52] <Begasus> I can do a new build, so that the resulting package would be less large
[10:53] <Raziel^> Begasus: just for the record...are there size limits for Haiku porgrams?
[10:54] <Begasus> not realy Raziel^
[10:54] <Raziel^> why do you need to squeeze bytes then? ;-)
[10:55] <Begasus> download :P
[10:55] <Begasus> not for me, but also for the others that want to download it :)
[10:55] <Raziel^> so...Haiku has limited download capacity?
[10:57] <Begasus> no, space on sf for scummvm ;) (eg will take less space and faster download)
[10:58] <Begasus> ok, doing a new build ...
[10:58] <Raziel^> i see...you are bored then :-D
[11:00] <Raziel^> LordHoto: can we have a new flag that disables debug aswell? --enable-release-nodebug?
[11:00] <Begasus> well, sitting at home with back problem gives me some time now :P
[11:00] <Raziel^> Begasus: ahh, i feel for you, i know what that means
[11:00] <Raziel^> get well soon, mate
[11:00] <LordHoto> Raziel^: no!!
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[11:00] <Begasus> thanks, it's going in the right direction ;)
[11:01] <Raziel^> LordHoto: prett pretty please, with a cherry on top?
[11:01] <LordHoto> Raziel^: Since I don't like cherries: No!
[11:01] <Raziel^> lol
[11:02] <Begasus> hehe
[11:02] <Begasus> well ... maybe the build won't take about aan hour now ;)
[11:02] <Begasus> -a
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[11:42] <Begasus> ok ... minus 40MiB ... :D
[11:42] <Begasus> _sev I'll upload new files later, sorry for the inconveniance
[11:56] <Begasus> updated the port on dropbox _sev
[11:56] <Begasus> bbl (visite) ;)
[11:58] <_sev> done
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[12:12] <James|GlideM> Hello all
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[15:26] <Begasus> thanks _sev! :)
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[16:35] <DrMcCoy> :(
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[18:56] <Raziel^> not sure if it's been said yet, but
[18:56] <Raziel^> Congrats to 1.7.0
[18:56] <Raziel^> :-)
[18:59] <Begasus> har har :D
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[20:19] <DrMcCoy> dammit
[20:20] <Begasus> probs DrMcCoy?
[20:20] <DrMcCoy> Missed clones :P
[20:20] <Begasus> ps thanks for adding the credits ;)
[20:20] <Begasus> hehe
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[21:06] <eriktorbjorn> Anyone around with a really creepily intimate knowledge of the SCUMM engine?
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[21:10] <eriktorbjorn> I was trying to figure out bug #6680 earlier today, but while I think I see what's happening I don' know what the correct fix is. (According to Kirben, my guess for a fix doesn't seem to be right.)
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[21:42] <Begasus> Raziel^ ... did you do a new build for amigaOS with the debug symbol disabled?
[21:43] <Raziel^> Begasus: nopey
[21:43] <Raziel^> just used --enable-release
[21:43] <Raziel^> no one told me to ;-)
[21:43] <Begasus> ah k
[21:44] <Begasus> yes only found out earlier also due to someone telling that they perhaps were enabled (in the #haiku channel) ;)
[21:44] <Begasus> well Haiku's port went from +50MiB to about 14MiB ;)
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