ScummVM IRC Log - 11 Jul 2014

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[05:35] <Begasus> morning
[05:43] <broosky> aloha
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[06:30] <Begasus> hi guys is there a download available for the tools (1.7.0pre)?
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[07:16] <GitHub105> [scummvm] anotherguest pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/tXJE6A
[07:16] <GitHub105> scummvm/master 5068deb anotherguest: CREDITS: Added Fedor Strizhniou, moved Keith Scroggins for correctness.
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[07:52] <Begasus> just mailed about a few changes for the credits.pl file, don't know who is in charge for that though ;)
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[08:39] <Ramal> When I try to update scummvm from github, I get a write error from git, how can I set git to readonly mode?
[08:39] <Ramal> That is I only want to pull recent commits.
[08:42] <wjp> disk full?
[08:44] <wjp> otherwise you'll have to be more specific about what you're doing and which error you're getting
[08:44] <wjp> Begasus: mailed where?
[08:44] <Begasus> scumm-dev ml
[08:45] <Begasus> in reply to the credits.pl
[08:45] <wjp> when?
[08:47] <Begasus> 09-51 so about an hour ago
[08:49] <fuzzie> stuck in moderation?
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[09:16] <Ramal> I try to pull the recent commits from master branch, but Visual Studio complains that I should use https:github because it cant push to git: I have some modified files but I dont want them sent, but it seems that Visual Studio wwants to send them anyway
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[09:21] <wjp> heh, our Makefile dist targets are still trying svn export
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[09:22] <wjp> Ramal: sorry, not a clue about VS's git client. Try the docs?
[09:22] <wjp> this shouldn't be an uncommon situation
[09:22] <fuzzie> the docs imply pretty strongly that pull is pull
[09:23] <wjp> does anyone have a clear picture of which new files have to be packaged compared to 1.6.0?
[09:23] <fuzzie> and it has 'sync' for a combined push/pull
[09:24] <fuzzie> wjp: no, I can't think of anything except wintermute
[09:24] <wjp> the vkeybd situation confuses me
[09:24] <wjp> I can't make heads or tails of digitall's 'ATTN Porters' mail on the topic
[09:24] <fuzzie> we're still not building it by default anywhere new, I thought
[09:25] <fuzzie> yes, digitall's mail does say "not enabled by default"
[09:26] <fuzzie> if our current list of files-to-package includes vkeybd files for some platforms, then I guess the new files should be added in the same way
[09:27] <wjp> oh, right, there's a line "not enabled by default on desktop ports" hidden in there
[09:27] <wjp> that mail is far too long for an 'ATTN' mail :-(
[09:27] <wjp> ah well
[09:27] <wjp> (thanks)
[09:31] <fuzzie> it can be difficult to write these things
[09:32] <wjp> true
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[10:09] <GitHub114> [scummvm] wjp pushed 3 new commits to branch-1-7: http://git.io/NTdCxQ
[10:09] <GitHub114> scummvm/branch-1-7 2347d29 Willem Jan Palenstijn: DISTS/FEDORA: Add (back) mpeg2dec dependency
[10:09] <GitHub114> scummvm/branch-1-7 02c3713 Willem Jan Palenstijn: DISTS/FEDORA: Package wintermute.zip
[10:09] <GitHub114> scummvm/branch-1-7 cf8017e Willem Jan Palenstijn: DISTS/REDHAT: Add libmad build patch...
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[10:09] <GitHub63> [scummvm] wjp pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/mQXRdg
[10:09] <GitHub63> scummvm/master 39cfc2c Willem Jan Palenstijn: DISTS/FEDORA: Add (back) mpeg2dec dependency...
[10:09] <GitHub63> scummvm/master 54b6f52 Willem Jan Palenstijn: DISTS/FEDORA: Package wintermute.zip...
[10:09] <GitHub63> scummvm/master bdf3c49 Willem Jan Palenstijn: DISTS/REDHAT: Add libmad build patch...
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[10:11] <wjp> hm, oops, consistent commit messages would have been nice there
[10:12] <Ramal> This appears to be the case. There is no need to press sync if you previously pressed pull.
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[10:46] <Raziel^> hello and help
[10:46] <Raziel^> can some dev please reset my account
[10:46] <Raziel^> i get a "Not authorised" on clicking the password confirmation
[10:49] <wjp> which account?
[10:50] <Raziel^> Raziel
[10:50] <wjp> on?
[10:50] <Raziel^> scummvm?
[10:50] <Raziel^> :-)
[10:50] <wjp> ?
[10:50] <Raziel^> forums.scummvm.org
[10:50] <wjp> ah, the forum
[10:50] <Raziel^> sorry
[10:50] <wjp> we do have quite a few things that have accounts :-)
[10:51] <Raziel^> yes...sorry, a little out of my mind today
[10:51] <Raziel^> ebay account got hacked
[10:51] <wjp> ouch
[10:51] <Raziel^> now i'm changing all of my pw
[10:52] <Raziel^> and in the process i messed up the confirmation email from the forums
[10:53] <Raziel^> instead of clicking on the link i tried with the sent password
[10:53] <Raziel^> it didn't work of course so i ordered a new one and now i'm stuck
[10:53] <Raziel^> :-)
[10:55] <wjp> I'm not a forum admin myself, but maybe someone else here
[10:56] <Raziel^> ok
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[11:13] <Raziel^> wjp: typo...solved, thank you anyway
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[12:06] <GitHub8> [scummvm] wjp pushed 2 new commits to branch-1-7: http://git.io/qf5Pvw
[12:06] <GitHub8> scummvm/branch-1-7 aabbf21 Willem Jan Palenstijn: Revert "MT32: Update to munt 1.4.0"...
[12:06] <GitHub8> scummvm/branch-1-7 a195bd1 Willem Jan Palenstijn: Revert "MT32: Copyright year bump"...
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[12:43] <Rasi> anyone knows whats up with the monkey island speech project?
[12:43] <Rasi> site seems to be down :(
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[13:19] <Raziel^> droid2727: you need to help waltervn with his paula code changes...the whole program will benefit from it
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[13:20] <Raziel^> and i was *not* asked by walter
[13:20] <Raziel^> ;-)
[13:35] <DrMcCoy> If nobody yells for a good reason, I'll update credits.pl in both master and branch-1-7 now
[13:36] <DrMcCoy> With the changes from Begasus on -devel
[13:36] Action: Raziel^ yells "For a good reason"
[13:36] <DrMcCoy> . . .
[13:36] <DrMcCoy> Dammit
[13:36] <Raziel^> :-D
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[13:37] <DrMcCoy> Hmm, I guess the Haiku add shouldn't go into branch-1-7, though?
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[13:44] <DrMcCoy> Ah, no, there will be a Haiku port for ScummVM 1.7.0?
[13:44] Action: DrMcCoy can't read, obviously :)
[13:48] <RUBICN64> I got some good news DrMcCoy...Finally upgraded to a Nexus 7 2012 so now I can finally use Google Play!
[13:48] <DrMcCoy> How is that good news, for me? o_O
[13:49] <RUBICN64> lol, what I mean is I don't have to sideload ScummVM anymore
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[13:50] <GitHub88> [scummvm] DrMcCoy pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/2WbOdg
[13:50] <GitHub88> scummvm/master f54a330 Sven Hesse: CREDITS: Retire BeOS porter Stefan Parviainen...
[13:50] <GitHub88> scummvm/master 1bbee90 Sven Hesse: CREDITS: Add Haiku port maintained by Luc Schrijvers...
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[13:50] <RUBICN64> I can get it directly from Google Play now
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[13:51] <GitHub108> [scummvm] DrMcCoy pushed 2 new commits to branch-1-7: http://git.io/62yVeQ
[13:51] <GitHub108> scummvm/branch-1-7 9a3849c Sven Hesse: CREDITS: Retire BeOS porter Stefan Parviainen...
[13:51] <GitHub108> scummvm/branch-1-7 9db5b8b Sven Hesse: CREDITS: Add Haiku port maintained by Luc Schrijvers...
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[13:51] <GitHub193> [scummvm-web] DrMcCoy pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/WWkIDQ
[13:51] <GitHub193> scummvm-web/master 6413d24 Sven Hesse: WEB: Update credits to retire BeOS porter Stefan Parviainen...
[13:51] <GitHub193> scummvm-web/master 82bec81 Sven Hesse: WEB: Update credits: Haiku maintained by Luc Schrijvers...
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[14:04] <DrMcCoy> Begasus: Oh, wait, that wasn't even a -devel mail, that was a direct mail to me :P
[14:04] <DrMcCoy> Begasus: Anyway, updated it :P
[14:04] <droid2727> Raziel^: as someone with zero knowledge of Paula, it clearly should fall upon DrMcCoy. seeing as he has zero interest, it's in limbo atm.
[14:06] <DrMcCoy> It just feel like too much messy work...
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[14:16] <droid2727> DrMcCoy: we should send all -devel mails to you!
[14:16] <DrMcCoy> :OO
[14:19] <wjp> a forwarding service with handling the request thrown in; nice!
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[14:35] <LordHoto> wjp: Shouldn't we also update the NEWS so that it doesn't mention that 1.7.0 contains an update to MUNT 1.4.0?
[14:39] <wjp> didn't I?
[14:39] <wjp> oh, in master
[14:39] <wjp> yes
[14:40] <LordHoto> I also didn't see a change for branch-1-7...
[14:40] <LordHoto> But maybe some mail is missing again.
[14:40] <wjp> the NEWS update was folded into the upgrade commit, so the revert also reverted the NEWS
[14:40] <LordHoto> ah, right I missed that file there.
[14:41] <LordHoto> Then just master is affected, yes. :-)
[14:41] <wjp> thanks for the reminder
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[14:41] <GitHub188> [scummvm] wjp pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/mFR3Sw
[14:41] <GitHub188> scummvm/master 44cf86e Willem Jan Palenstijn: NEWS: Synchronize with branch-1-7
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[15:43] <Ramal> Wonderful. After extensive cleaning and reinstalling of my computer. The backup still appears not to be 1 to 1. Thats just obviously someones fault(hope its not me though). Now I have to do all the library configurations again. Somehow it got screwed, even though I used every "tool" possible. Hope I can blame someone else this time...lol
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[15:57] <Ramal> Probably should be easy to restore though, if I follow the wikitutorial.
[15:58] <Ramal> One can only hope.
[16:01] <droid2727> Ramal: wtf are you talking about?
[16:03] <Ramal> I decomposed my computer into parts and when I put it together again it appears its not 1 to 1. Even though I used a "secure copy". It makes me angry, but not too much because im unsure if its my fault.
[16:04] <droid2727> Ramal: and what does that have to do with ScummVM?
[16:04] <Ramal> Its incidental...
[16:05] <Ramal> Vaguely related to my asking for help also
[16:05] <Ramal> lol
[16:06] <Ramal> aka not that much
[16:06] <Ramal> I will try to contain myself better :)
[16:06] <somaen> Well I'll give you a lesson, that you already got then: Backup isn't enough, verify it too.
[16:07] <somaen> Lesson 2: Making a copy of your disk, and then backing it up does not constitute a backup, as you will at one point be sitting with only one copy of your data.
[16:08] <Ramal> That is a part of the problem. But it there is a chain of events coming before and after that makes me worried. The copy appears to be with correct checksum but somehow there is another step made that screwed my configuration up.
[16:08] <somaen> And yes, laughing at people that didn't backup properly is perfectly ok, as it's part of teaching them to Never Do It Again(tm).
[16:09] <madmoose> Laughing at people who don't backup properly also increases the learning rate when you do it yourself.
[16:09] <Ramal> Which means I will have to redo some parts from scratch
[16:10] <LordHoto> *shrug*
[16:11] <fydo> to make a scummvm pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe
[16:12] <Ramal> Its very ANNOYING
[16:12] <Ramal> lol
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[16:13] <Ramal> I wouldnt really go that far, I have some parts working fine though :)
[16:15] <somaen> Throw it all in the trash
[16:15] <somaen> buy a new computer, and start from scratch
[16:15] <somaen> less annoying that way.
[16:16] <fydo> buying a computer is cheating! you need to fab a PCB and populate it by hand
[16:17] <madmoose> I just simulate the circuits by hand on a piece of paper.
[16:17] <somaen> Meh, you're also piggy-backing on a perfectly workable universe, better to start of in a new one.
[16:18] <Ramal> Yes I would, this one is made from a lot of old salvaged parts, not really sure why its even holding together, why just resently i had to remove every fan cover and replace the power supply(with a used one from another computer). I definitely should thow it in the trash.
[16:18] <greencis> That reminds me one fairy tale, where they disassembled a telephone, then reassembled it and got extra parts :)
[16:18] <Ramal> The problem is I get sentimental when I try to kick it out.
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[16:19] <somaen> Ramal: Solution: ask someone else to clean your house, no holds barred.
[16:20] <somaen> (not suggesting the radical approach of 'all thieves are welcome'-signs, but well, other people have less attachement to the things one tends to not get rid of)
[16:21] <somaen> I can also relate, I still have quite a bit of legacy hardware, a lot of which isn't even that interesting (as compared to the Amiga-era stuff, an AMD k6-2 isn't really that much to care about)
[16:21] <Ramal> Sorry this is unrelated, but i actually can use it as a wind tunnel because i got this new setup with to 120mm fans...
[16:22] <Ramal> It doesnt look like the factory model anymore though :)
[16:24] <Raziel^> it's like building a posche cover over a beetle interior
[16:24] <Raziel^> it looks fine but once you start it up...
[16:24] <Ramal> Im an Atari "professional". Even though the Atari had its drawbacks and I mostly played bubble bobble and double dragon III
[16:24] Action: Raziel^ hiss at Ramal
[16:24] <Raziel^> begone
[16:25] Action: Raziel^ is an Amiga addict
[16:25] <Raziel^> :-)
[16:28] <Ramal> What about C64 then?
[16:29] <Ramal> That was a good computer
[16:29] <Ramal> Even though it didnt have a graphics system and a mouse
[16:31] <Raziel^> i started with the c64, great little beast, yes
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[16:39] <Ramal> I think its silly these fanwars actually
[16:40] <Ramal> I dont judge a good computer by a bad fanbase...
[16:40] <Ramal> (flamewar)
[16:41] <Ramal> But its really to only sane thing to do because some fans can be a bit annoying
[16:41] <Raziel^> tell me about it
[16:41] <Ramal> hehe
[16:42] <Raziel^> AmigaOS<->MorphOS
[16:42] <Raziel^> as if people don't have other problems
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[16:44] <Ramal> Well some people try to own the brand when they have no claim to it and its a lot different being a developer and a user that said, I think the developers need to listen more to the users, but that was a early problem with the PC for instance where the communicationroutes where not that clearly explained and a lot of bad software was produced because no one really know who was "responsible" for the creation of the software or who to report bugs t
[16:49] <Ramal> This led to a lot of frustration I can imagine, but in the end there are still some good responsible software companies out there
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[16:56] <Ramal> Now I must fix the compilation of scummvm itself
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[17:00] <WooShell> meow =^.^=
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[17:34] <GitHub15> [scummvm] SimSaw opened pull request #482: DOCS: Very last minute update to German NEWS (Neues). (branch-1-7...branch-1-7) http://git.io/XJuGSA
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[17:37] <eriktorbjorn> I didn't know this existed: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FREDDI-FISH-The-Haunted-Schoolhouse-Interactive-DVD-Game-Brand-New-/360402796132
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[19:44] <droid2727> eriktorbjorn: like using DVD menus and what not? o_O
[19:45] <eriktorbjorn> droid2727: I assume so.
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[19:46] <droid2727> I suppose there's always a new level of crazy...
[19:51] <_sev> so
[19:51] <_sev> are we OK to tag now?
[19:52] <eriktorbjorn> I'm still worried about TsAGE deadlocks, but I guess they're not going to be fixed in the next few days anyway...
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[21:05] <criezy> _sev: do we have the time to merge https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/pull/482 before tagging?
[21:06] <_sev> done
[21:06] <_sev> tagging now
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[21:06] <GitHub164> scummvm/branch-1-7 e0772ad Simon Sawatzki: DOCS: Very last minute update to German NEWS (Neues)....
[21:06] <GitHub164> scummvm/branch-1-7 dc0806d Eugene Sandulenko: Merge pull request #482 from SimSaw/branch-1-7...
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[21:06] <GitHub195> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #482: DOCS: Very last minute update to German NEWS (Neues). (branch-1-7...branch-1-7) http://git.io/XJuGSA
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[21:18] <Ramal> I get a lot of linker error like these Error 1 error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "public: __thiscall Image::BitmapDecoder::BitmapDecoder(void)" (??0BitmapDecoder@Image@@QAE@XZ) F:\workspace\scummvm\devtools\create_project\msvc12\Debug\wintermute.lib(base_image.obj) scummvm
[21:18] <somaen_> rerun create_project
[21:18] <Ramal> sorry for the nonformatting
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[21:19] <somaen_> and clean your build
[21:19] <Ramal> should i rerun create_project solution or just the exe
[21:19] <somaen_> just the exe
[21:19] <somaen_> the image-decoders were moved to images/ a month or so back.
[21:20] <somaen_> This looks like you haven't gotten that updated in your solution
[21:20] <droid2727> 4 months
[21:20] <Ramal> are you sure that doesnt require create_project.sln to be run
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[21:20] <GitHub134> scummvm/branch-1-7 87ef1c3 Eugene Sandulenko: REDHAT: Added neberhood.dat and update release version name
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[21:21] <somaen_> Ramal: create_project itself hasn't seen much updating for a rather long while
[21:21] <Ramal> maybe i should run it just to be safe?
[21:21] <Ramal> i see so i will get the same result?
[21:22] <somaen_> Well, since the source hasn't changed for create_project (unless you built it very very long ago), you will get the same exe out
[21:22] <Ramal> that makes a lot of sense
[21:22] <Ramal> :)
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[21:27] <GitHub43> scummvm/branch-1-7-0 c565e0d Eugene Sandulenko: DISTS: Generated Code::Blocks and MSVC project files
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[21:35] <Ramal> In scummvm project I have added searchpaths for include and lib, not sure if this is the optimal solution. It works fine but it cant find theora/theoradec.h. I have a vague recollection that this include was problematic?
[21:35] <Ramal> It does however exist on the disc
[21:36] <Ramal> Should I disable theora in create_project or will I get linker errors? Alternatively should I disable the affected engines.
[21:37] <Ramal> That would be wintermute, pegasus, sword25.
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[21:37] <Ramal> According to error report.
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[21:39] <GitHub172> scummvm-tools/branch-1-7-0 1812764 Eugene Sandulenko: TOOLS: This is 1.7.0 release
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[21:44] <Ramal> I believe I will be most successful with the latter option, so I will try that..
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[21:44] <somaen_> You could always install libtheoradec
[21:44] <somaen_> But it all boils down to what engines you actually want to run
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[21:45] <somaen_> Presumably you don't actually have a copy of a game for every single engine we support.
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[21:50] <Ramal> I think I have theora on disc it just doesnt recognise it, of course i dont that would be silly :)
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[21:50] <GitHub111> scummvm/master b6164d1 Eugene Sandulenko: MAEMO: Sync changelog with 1.7.0
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[21:51] <Ramal> I wouldnt want ALL the games
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[21:51] <Ramal> Just the important ones
[21:52] <Ramal> I dont know why it doesnt recognise theora though...... I have disabled the affected engines as a temporary solution.
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[21:57] <Ramal> Now I get an unidentified error: Error 6 error MSB6006: "cmd.exe" exited with code 9009. C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4.0\V120\Microsoft.CppCommon.targets 170 5 scummvm
[21:57] <Ramal> Again sorry for the nonformatting, its a copy paste..
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[22:03] <Ramal> Strange that there is no detailed error message though, one would expect there to some more information.
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[22:07] <Ramal> Trying create_project again, must be succesful
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[23:58] <RichieSams> Hello everyone!
[23:58] <RichieSams> It's been a while :)
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