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[06:27] <uruk-hai> hey all! :)
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[08:21] <fuzzie> well, the new Bolt Riley kickstarter made it past their goal, it seems
[08:21] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
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[11:14] <_sev> LordHoto: here?
[11:15] <_sev> wjp: here?
[11:28] <LordHoto> _sev: not really
[11:29] <_sev> it would be nice if you guys find some time and express your opinion on cage merge
[11:30] <_sev> it has been posted 6 days ago, and I vividly remember "you did not ask my opinion" drama from the last engine merge
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[11:41] <Raziel^> hi all
[11:42] <Raziel^> does anyone know if the version/date information from ScummVM is stored in a variable at compiling time?
[11:43] <Raziel^> and am i able to read that out to convert it into a slightly different form, so my platform could use it?
[11:45] <DrMcCoy> Raziel^: Well, there's const char * in base/version.h
[11:47] <DrMcCoy> But parsing those into a different format is potentially difficult
[11:47] <DrMcCoy> Since the version might or might not include a git revision
[11:47] <Raziel^> looking...
[11:48] <DrMcCoy> And the date might not be available (PS2 doesn't do __DATE__ and __TIME__)
[11:48] <DrMcCoy> And IIRC, the exact format of __DATE__ and __TIME__ is not standardized
[11:49] <Raziel^> hmm, well, if i could just add a "$VER: in front of "*gScummVMFullVersion" i'd be settled :-)
[11:50] <Raziel^> static const char *version_cookie __attribute__((used)) = "$VER:", *gScummVMFullVersion;
[11:50] <Raziel^> if something like that is possible?
[11:50] <DrMcCoy> I have no idea what that's supposed to be
[11:51] <Raziel^> it's a cookie which holds the version information which can be read out by an AmigaOS4 version command
[11:51] <Raziel^> just trying to see if it is possible
[11:52] <DrMcCoy> And no, you can concat a string literal and a const char * like that
[11:52] <Raziel^> ok
[11:53] <Raziel^> so how could i read the information from *gScummVMFullVersion and pass it to my string so it gets attached?
[11:53] <DrMcCoy> You can concat a string literal and the macro SCUMMVM_VERSION, though, since that's a string literal too
[11:55] <DrMcCoy> If you want to use gScummVMFullVersion, you'd need to do that at runtime with strcpy/strcat, which is probably not what you want
[11:56] <Raziel^> nope, i want to have it available in the exe
[11:56] <Raziel^> the version command will parse the .exe for $VER: and print out what comes afterwards (given some boundaries, of course)
[11:57] <DrMcCoy> You probably want to use static const char *version_cookie __attribute__((used)) = "$VER: ScummVM " SCUMMVM_VERSION then
[11:58] <DrMcCoy> Possibly static const char *version_cookie __attribute__((used)) = "$VER: ScummVM " SCUMMVM_VERSION " (" __DATE__ " " __TIME__ ")"; to mirror what version.cpp does
[11:59] <Raziel^> oh, thats looks more difficult than i thought :-)
[11:59] <Raziel^> i'll try that, thanks
[11:59] <DrMcCoy> Not really, just copying what's in version.cpp, i.e. concatting some string literals
[11:59] <Raziel^> How would i add the ScummVMFeatures?
[12:00] <DrMcCoy> :/
[12:00] <DrMcCoy> By copying the rest of version.cpp, but this is now getting ugly
[12:01] <Raziel^> heh, let me try that one first :-)
[12:03] <DrMcCoy> Raziel^: Is that just some private stuff, or is that supposed to go into ScummVM proper?
[12:03] <Raziel^> well, if it works, i'd like to get into the amigaos part of ScummVM, yes
[12:03] <LordHoto> _sev: I wanted to look at it tomorrow evening (or maybe afternoon, but probably evening). Not sure about wjp...
[12:03] <Raziel^> I had user reuqests for a proper support of AmigaOS version command
[12:05] <DrMcCoy> I really can't see an easy way to have that feature string twice without duplicating all that #ifdef stuff again
[12:07] <DrMcCoy> And duplicating that is ugly. And adds the possibility of those two versions going out of sync, which is bad
[12:14] <lewellyn> Raziel^: i skimmed the past few minutes... a good question would be "how does the windows binary generate its version info?" :)
[12:15] <DrMcCoy> If someone else knows of a way to duplicate the feature string at compile-time without actually duplicating that whole block of #ifdefs, ...
[12:15] <DrMcCoy> Because I don't
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[12:16] <lewellyn> DrMcCoy: iirc, the windows binary has the version info
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[12:18] <DrMcCoy> Hmm
[12:18] <fuzzie> devtools/update-version.pl updates a bunch of files for the release
[12:18] <Raziel^> kk, seems to work with only the version, now for the time and date
[12:18] <LordHoto> lewellyn: I don't think it has the "features" information included.
[12:19] <lewellyn> http://i.imgur.com/HzZ7GU2.png
[12:19] <lewellyn> nope. but basic version info is.
[12:19] <lewellyn> that'd be "enough" to satisfy the request iirc.
[12:19] <lewellyn> er. aiui.
[12:19] <fuzzie> which is to say, including scummvm.rc
[12:19] <DrMcCoy> Oooh
[12:19] <fuzzie> but yes no features, no date, no time, no revision info, etc
[12:19] <LordHoto> lewellyn: but for that SCUMMVM_VERSION suffices?
[12:20] <lewellyn> LordHoto: i don't know. that's why i suggested restating the question. :)
[12:20] <lewellyn> i remembered that the .exe had versioning info, and the request was regarding versioning info.
[12:20] <LordHoto> But that was already answered.
[12:20] <lewellyn> as i said, i skimmed
[12:25] <Raziel^> date and time don't work...yet
[12:25] <LordHoto> Raziel^: does it differ from the time in the launcher or what's the problem?
[12:26] <Raziel^> it's not displayed, i only get this: ScummVM 1.8.0gi
[12:26] <Raziel^> the gi should be the time and date
[12:26] <LordHoto> It looks like it's just cutting off the version string?
[12:26] <Raziel^> ah, right, sorry
[12:26] <Raziel^> yes that should be git
[12:26] <Raziel^> static const char *version_cookie __attribute__((used)) = "$VER: ScummVM " SCUMMVM_VERSION "(" __DATE__ " " __TIME__ ")";
[12:27] <Raziel^> this is the line
[12:28] <DrMcCoy> You sure that version displaying tool doesn't just have a character limit or something?
[12:28] <Raziel^> yes, my fault
[12:28] <Raziel^> it does work
[12:28] <Raziel^> :-)
[12:28] <DrMcCoy> 15 characters, so 16 with the \0?
[12:29] <Raziel^> it puts the date and time into a new line though
[12:29] <Raziel^> ScummVM 1.8.0gi
[12:29] <Raziel^> (Aug 9 2014 14:19:41)
[12:29] <Raziel^> while it "should" be in the same line, but that might be because i need to format it first :-)
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[12:36] <Raziel^> the PS2 build doesn't use Features in it's version information aswell, right?
[12:36] <Raziel^> hey dreammaster
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[12:43] <DrMcCoy> relatedly: why? https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/commit/7dc0a54c5dcca7e86e88de513521961df67c812e
[12:46] <DrMcCoy> why does the ps2 need extra handling there?
[12:46] <DrMcCoy> "beautified & simplified"? wat
[12:46] <lewellyn> with hardcoded dates, at that...
[12:46] <DrMcCoy> https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/commit/33b22acc5de3a93f1b6c82077a02f74110b879ef
[12:47] <lewellyn> wtf.
[12:47] <lewellyn> does that compiler not provide __DATE__?
[12:47] <droid2727> it's gcc
[12:47] <DrMcCoy> I have no idea
[12:48] <Raziel^> maybe he wants to keep track of his builds *and* provide a personal versioning information
[12:48] <DrMcCoy> lewellyn: would be my guess, but if it's gcc? :/
[12:50] <DrMcCoy> In either case, I wish the commit message would explain the rational behind that change...
[12:50] <lewellyn> i mean, sure, i'd not complain so much about something like "#ifdef SHORTVERSION" with just the time in gScummVMBuildDate and the other two omitting datetime info.
[12:50] <lewellyn> but *that*? ugh.
[12:50] <droid2727> https://github.com/sunmax/scummvm/commit/7dc0a54c5dcca7e86e88de513521961df67c812e
[12:50] <DrMcCoy> Because I really don't get what "beautified & simplified" is supposed to mean
[12:50] <DrMcCoy> Is the default too long for the screen?
[12:50] <Raziel^> DrMcCoy: thanks, all is working now, i put up a pr
[12:51] <DrMcCoy> Or does sunmax just think the default is ugly?
[12:51] <lewellyn> or both
[12:51] <droid2727> DrMcCoy: see that link
[12:51] <lewellyn> "was chopped and ugly"
[12:51] <DrMcCoy> droid2727: Ooh
[12:51] <lewellyn> so yeah. #ifdef SHORTVERSION or something :P
[12:52] <lewellyn> i see no reason for that to be PS2-specific. :P
[12:52] <DrMcCoy> Yeah, okay, I can understand if it's too long. But still, that solution is quite hacky :/
[12:54] <lewellyn> indeed. :P
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[12:58] <GitHub149> [scummvm] raziel- opened pull request #490: AMIGAOS: Add AmigaOS version format (master...patch-2) http://git.io/mGmkHQ
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[13:26] <GitHub121> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #484: SCUMM: Improve non-Towns CJK text rendering (master...korean-work) http://git.io/UGYUUA
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[13:26] <GitHub14> [scummvm] sev- pushed 7 new commits to master: http://git.io/Qp5G6g
[13:26] <GitHub14> scummvm/master 4fc58ff wonst719: SCUMM: Fix non-Towns CJK text rendering
[13:26] <GitHub14> scummvm/master e4f845a wonst719: SCUMM: Fix text shadow in The DIG Korean.
[13:26] <GitHub14> scummvm/master e3e1f46 wonst719: SCUMM: Fix Korean/Taiwanese text line break in The DIG
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[13:34] <GitHub21> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #487: Miscellaneous AudioStream fixes (master...audio_fixes) http://git.io/6w13sw
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[13:34] <GitHub45> [scummvm] sev- pushed 8 new commits to master: http://git.io/m0teuw
[13:34] <GitHub45> scummvm/master 1b834f9 Matthew Hoops: AUDIO: Finish off AAC/QDM2 queues when done decoding a packet
[13:34] <GitHub45> scummvm/master d235396 Matthew Hoops: AUDIO: Fix QueuingAudioStreamImpl locking
[13:34] <GitHub45> scummvm/master 6d632dd Matthew Hoops: AUDIO: Better handle endOfStream() vs endOfData() in QueuingAudioStreamImpl
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[13:37] <GitHub80> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #489: AMIGAOS: Stack cookie and no more AmigaOS version number (master...patch-1) http://git.io/OzL5Gg
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[13:37] <GitHub186> [scummvm] sev- pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/e5bKcg
[13:37] <GitHub186> scummvm/master 13d0157 raziel-: AMIGAOS: Get rid of the OS version number...
[13:37] <GitHub186> scummvm/master 38f7a9b raziel-: AMIGAOS: Cleanup of the AmigaOS version number
[13:37] <GitHub186> scummvm/master cbae401 raziel-: AMIGAOS: Add a stack cookie...
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[13:38] <Raziel^> thanks _sev
[13:38] <_sev> you are welcome
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[13:38] <GitHub171> [scummvm] sev- closed pull request #490: AMIGAOS: Add AmigaOS version format (master...patch-2) http://git.io/mGmkHQ
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[13:38] <GitHub167> [scummvm] sev- pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/ceaHjQ
[13:38] <GitHub167> scummvm/master 0c62508 raziel-: AMIGAOS: Add AmigaOS version format...
[13:38] <GitHub167> scummvm/master 253d443 Eugene Sandulenko: Merge pull request #490 from raziel-/patch-2...
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[13:50] <lewellyn> Raziel^: per your question in #489, "they defined it poorly" but that's not your fault :)
[13:55] <Raziel^> lewellyn: :-)
[13:55] <Raziel^> and thank you again _sev
[13:57] <_sev> let's see that all ports get built
[13:57] <Raziel^> uhh, i hope i didn't break Gob
[14:11] <Strangerke> Bah, collateral damages... That happens
[14:12] <Raziel^> hehehe, don't let McCoy here that
[14:12] <criezy> It's not as if anyone played Gob games anyway.
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[14:15] <Raziel^> criezy: i played all three and like them a lot ;-)
[14:16] <criezy> I actually did as well.
[14:16] <criezy> I got Gobliiins on floppy for my birthday a long time ago and this was the first adventure game I played.
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[14:17] <Raziel^> actually it's more of a strategic puzzle :-D
[14:28] <Trixar_za> All I remember is that I tried it a few years ago (well, ok, I was 10) and found it way too hard. This is the same 10 year old that beat Fate of Atlantis without any guide or help because I didn't have the internet back then.
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[14:37] <DrMcCoy> Huh, why the hell did I only get _sev's "Will merge" comment to that pull request per mail, not the actual pull request? O_o
[14:38] <_sev> spam filters?
[14:38] <DrMcCoy> No, it's not in my spam folder either
[14:39] <Raziel^> I flagged it as "Don't send to DrMcCoy"
[14:39] <Raziel^> ;-)
[14:39] <DrMcCoy> You probably have "Annoy DrMcCoy" enabled in your user settings, right?
[14:40] <Raziel^> There's a setting for that?
[14:40] <Raziel^> Damn, i do that for every PR manually
[14:40] <Raziel^> :-D
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[14:53] <GitHub68> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/cSzoMA
[14:53] <GitHub68> scummvm/master a11b52e Eugene Sandulenko: PEGASUS: Cleanup from unused constants....
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[14:53] <_sev> droid2727: done
[14:59] <droid2727> _sev: thanks
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[21:14] <GitHub114> [scummvm] fuzzie pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/I5P54Q
[21:14] <GitHub114> scummvm/master 94f8359 Alyssa Milburn: COMPOSER: Make sure V1 scripts are run before redrawing.
[21:14] <GitHub114> scummvm/master c3f3b62 Alyssa Milburn: COMPOSER: Remove sprites when stopping V1 scripts (bug #6091).
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