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[01:01] woah, calm down cowboy [01:03] ScummVM is not at risk of being "killed" [01:03] Certainly not from a lack of some edge case feature at any rate [01:04] edge case feature [01:04] ho [01:04] it is so edge case it is in the faq [01:04] *shrug* [01:04] If the project has survived without it for as long as it has, then it's definitely not a core feature [01:05] doesn't mean it isn't useful [01:05] I never said it wasn't useful [01:05] Cheeseness: that guy talks about adding the feature won't kill ScummVM, not that the lack of it will kill ScummVM? [01:05] I just said that ScummVM wasn't at risk of being "killed" by not having it [01:06] Oh, sorry. I misread ^_^ [01:10] Cheeseness: don't worry, it just seemed odd :-P [01:10] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@scummvm/undead/m-kiewitz) left irc: Quit: technology isn't intrinsically good or evil. It's how it's used. Like the Death Ray. 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[07:42] Cruel` (~cruel@173-169-129-195.res.bhn.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:42] I don't know if this has been discussed before, but the german translation of the website is using the form of address "Sie". As a german myself, I would prefer to be addressed with a more friendly and more gamer-compatible "Du". I know there are more germans here; opinions? [07:46] Henke37 (~Henrik@81-227-16-59-no133.bredband.skanova.com) joined #scummvm. [08:01] parwana (uid31235@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxmycunljoykpbbe) left irc: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [08:13] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:16] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@x4d03e016.dyn.telefonica.de) joined #scummvm. [08:16] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@x4d03e016.dyn.telefonica.de) left irc: Changing host [08:16] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@scummvm/undead/m-kiewitz) joined #scummvm. [08:16] #scummvm: mode change '+o m_kiewitz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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[18:59] Live interview with Rebecca Heineman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RrBGXaQibc -- Has anyone played Tass Times in Tonetown? [19:04] does gog.com's IHNM use ScummVM, or just the mobile stuff? [19:08] now talking about the animation compression of bard's tale [19:27] t0by (~t0by@host123-202-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Bye! [19:46] Tkachov (~Tkachov@84.237.53.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:02] anyone on here owns phantasmagoria 2 on GOG? [20:07] waltervn (~waltervn@82-171-142-149.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:14] LordHoto (~loom@unaffiliated/lordhoto) joined #scummvm. [20:14] #scummvm: mode change '+o LordHoto' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:15] I'm running out of things to implement in kom. looks like it's time for... SAVING AND LOADING [20:15] *distant thundeR* [20:15] eh. i was expecting you to say "it's time for PR!" [20:16] PR won't help this obscure game [20:17] m_kiewitz: I do have it [20:17] what is it anyway? some text adventure? [20:18] criezy: ah great. can you please look inside the version file? [20:19] I guess I will have to download it first then :P [20:21] salty-horse: I have the DOS version of Tass Times in Tonetown, but didn't do much more than look at the beginning. It didn't look that interesting to me. (And of course, the DOS graphics of that time probably make it seem worse than it is.) [20:22] criezy: lol yes [20:23] m_kiewitz: I bought Phantasmagoria 2 on GOG during a sale, but since I have the CDs I don't know if I ever bothered even downloading it yet. [20:23] Begasus (~Begas_@d54C3D303.access.telenet.be) left irc: Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred! [20:24] eriktorbjorn: which version do you own physically? [20:24] m_kiewitz: Not sure. Should I look for a file called "version" or something like that? [20:25] that too, but is it the US release? UK release? [20:27] m_kiewitz: How do I tell? [20:28] age rating, barcode... [20:28] http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/SCI/Phantasmagoria_2_Censorship [20:33] m_kiewitz: Hmm... The bar code on the back of the CD case say "3 348542 019690" underneath. Except for one other copy, where it says "3 348542 019683" (not "638" as it says on the web page?) [20:34] one other copy? [20:35] m_kiewitz: For reasons I can't really explain, I bought more than one copy of the game, when I found it for cheap. :-) [20:35] ahhh a victim of the UK censorship great :P [20:35] im interested in what they actually did - remove files or just change the scripts [20:35] but the UK version is more expensive than the others lol [20:36] m_kiewitz: Maybe. I seem to recall some rather messed-up scenes when I played it, but I don't remember which of these copies I played... or even if I had to download a patch to run it in DOSBox. [20:36] (My messed up, I mean they seemed pretty graphic to me.) [20:36] surely not the uk version lol [20:38] blorente (~blorente@140.red-83-55-210.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:40] eriktorbjorn: can you check the files that are mentioned in the wiki? [20:40] and also check the size of the files [20:41] Let's see... The first one has a VERSION file on the first CD that says "001.0.000". The CD says it's for Windows 95. The second one has a VERSION file that says "001.0.06", and the CD says it's for Win 95/DOS 5.0+. Checking the wiki now... [20:43] The GoG.com version is "001.0.06" [20:44] so .06 is not a typo really weird [20:45] i thought it was .006 [20:45] thanks [20:46] eriktorbjorn: and your box looks like the one on the wiki? [20:46] then i guess i made a typo with that barcode [20:46] Let's see... In my 001.0.06 version, 1630.DUK is 21,125,528 bytes and runs for just over 2.5 minutes. [20:47] m_kiewitz: I don't have a box, unfortunately, but the cover on the discs look more like the UK version, with "PHANTASMAGORIA" written across the top. [20:49] 1631.DUK is 7,726,132 bytes, and runs for a litt over a minute. So I guess it has both versions of the files. [20:58] 3291.DUK and 4395.DUK, on the other hand, are identical. They're 13,176,836 bytes, and I guess they're the shorter version? [20:59] iskrich (d9c5081b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.197.8.27) left irc: Quit: Page closed [21:01] 5810.DUK and 5750.DUK are different, but they're not even showing the same scene. [21:03] DominusExult (~dominus@unaffiliated/dominus) joined #scummvm. [21:03] ny00123 (~ny00123@46-116-85-1.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:04] 7960.DUK and 7965.DUK are different lengths, so that scene sceems to have both versions. [21:05] Dominus (~dominus@unaffiliated/dominus) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:05] Nick change: DominusExult -> Dominus [21:08] 8215.DUK and 8216.DUK both exist, but 8215.DUK doesn't appear to be 3:04. The file is 26,685,966 bytes. [21:09] girafe2 (~girafe@2a01:cb15:810a:4100:d09f:ceff:5019:68c4) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:11] And 4986.DUK and 4987.DUK both exist, and are different from each other, so I guess it has both. [21:14] so many ducks... [21:14] Strangerke (~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net) joined #scummvm. [21:14] #scummvm: mode change '+o Strangerke' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [21:15] Action: eriktorbjorn meant 4391.DUK before, not 3291.DUK. [21:16] In my other version (001.0.000), 4391.duk and 4395.duk *are* different. [21:25] eriktorbjorn: can you compare the data with your GOG version? [21:29] GitHub175 (~GitHub175@192.30.252.34) joined #scummvm. 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[22:08] scummvm/branch-1-8 5325ae3 Eugene Sandulenko: SCUMM HE: Safeguard division by zero [22:08] scummvm/branch-1-8 b3f3078 Eugene Sandulenko: AUDIO FM-TOWNS: Fix copy/paste error [22:08] GitHub172 (GitHub172@192.30.252.46) left #scummvm. [22:22] m_kiewitz: the GOG version appears to be different from the 001.0.06 version eriktorbjorn was looking at. [22:23] 1630.DUK and 1631.DUK have the same sizes as the one he gave. [22:23] yes, that's weird. people said that GOG was fully uncensored [22:23] But 4391.DUK is 15,010,384 bytes and 4395.DUK is 13,192,516 bytes. [22:24] hmm i will check my uncut English version [22:25] my 4391 is 15.010.384 [22:25] 4395 is 13.192.516 [22:26] 1630 is 21.125.528 [22:26] 1631 is 7.726.132 [22:26] Not sure I can compare to the GOG version - at least not tonight - because it's far too late at night to fiddle with the Windows installer under Linux. [22:27] ajax16384 (~User@ip33.net130.n37.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:28] But my two physical versions have identical files for most of them, but 4391.duk, 4395.duk, 8215.duk and 8216.duk differ between the two. [22:28] iskrich (d9c5081b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.197.8.27) joined #scummvm. [22:28] #scummvm: mode change '+v iskrich' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [22:29] ah so it seems those movie files are the uncut ones [22:30] WooShell (~Markus@ipbcc34ce4.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) left irc: Quit: Zu gotdy od mpy nrmy stpimf. Zu drvpmf zrsmd aogy jrt iq pt viy jrt yp yjr htpimf. [22:30] m_kiewitz: I don't know. I sent you the names and sizes of the files of the two versions in private. I hope you did get those messages. [22:31] yep. i need to go through all of those [22:31] i should have added the file sizes to the wiki already [22:35] If you want I can put the GOG version full file listing on pastbin. [22:37] ah that would be great [22:37] http://pastebin.com/kHQMW2nu [23:41] wanwan (~wanwan@ppp85-141-72-202.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:52] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@scummvm/undead/m-kiewitz) left irc: Quit: technology isn't intrinsically good or evil. It's how it's used. Like the Death Ray. [00:00] --- Mon May 9 2016