ScummVM IRC Log - 07 Jun 2016

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[06:08] <bgK> Pegasus_Epsilon: I'm playing Myst with the Android emulator, and I'm not able to reproduce the issue: http://imgur.com/Y77Tevx is there any extra step that I would have missed?
[06:09] <Pegasus_Epsilon> you have the lights on, and you're looking at the lights off door
[06:09] <Pegasus_Epsilon> look at the color of the wall on the left there
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[06:09] <Pegasus_Epsilon> also the little gap along the top
[06:09] <Pegasus_Epsilon> (you totes reproduced it)
[06:10] <Pegasus_Epsilon> here's what i did tonight: https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7595/26906683834_c15592092b_o.jpg
[06:11] <Pegasus_Epsilon> i also think i found a bug in full throttle on the droid, but i need to try it under linux before i throw accusations
[06:12] <fedor4ever> Hi! I'm symbian contributor. I ask for access to wiki and move to your servers symbian libs
[06:13] <bgK> Pegasus_Epsilon: This is what I get on linux: http://imgur.com/Q1LtmbO - looks the same to me
[06:13] <Pegasus_Epsilon> that is the same, yes. it may be a bug in the myst files instead of scummvm.
[06:13] <Pegasus_Epsilon> (there are quite a few of those)
[06:14] <Pegasus_Epsilon> unfortunately i don't know the exact sequence of events to get the dramatically off-center door
[06:15] <Pegasus_Epsilon> i filed another myst bug and two more riven bugs today, though, so that'll keep you busy :)
[06:15] <Pegasus_Epsilon> and also i'm lobbying to reopen a "closed-invalid" eye of the beholder on android bug
[06:16] <Pegasus_Epsilon> this one: https://sourceforge.net/p/scummvm/bugs/6811/
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[06:35] <bgK> Pegasus_Epsilon: While I had the android emulator open, I tested the kyra.dat bug, and I'm able to confirm it.
[06:35] <Pegasus_Epsilon> yup
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[07:35] <waltervn> morning
[07:38] <uruk-hai> good morning :)
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[09:02] <Strangerke|work> hi guys
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[13:27] <rootfather> hi folks
[13:28] <Strangerke|work> hi rootfather
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[14:05] <rootfather> hello there Stranger
[14:13] <_sev|work> ke
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[16:10] <rootfather> has github changed the way it displays the number of commits?
[16:11] <rootfather> there's only 10.000+ instead of the actual number
[16:11] <Strangerke|work> oh?
[16:12] <rootfather> https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm
[16:12] <Strangerke|work> ohloh says 5k commits just for the last 12 months, and it didn't update for 2 weeks
[16:12] <rootfather> 10.000+ commits
[16:12] <rootfather> it used to be the number of actual commits a few days ago
[16:12] <rootfather> I think they changed it yesterday
[16:12] <rootfather> don't know the exact number of commits in the scummvm repo, but it was well over 10k
[16:12] <Strangerke|work> maybe it was too hard to compute with super large projects
[16:13] <Strangerke|work> but it's surprising it was
[16:13] <rootfather> don't think it
[16:13] <rootfather> it is hard to compute... they could update it daily
[16:13] <rootfather> and then add all the "xxx pushed y commits to repo/branch"
[16:13] <rootfather> maybe a database error again :P
[16:13] <Strangerke|work> it's just parsing a graph
[16:14] <Strangerke|work> ohloh pretends we have around 80k commit
[16:14] <Strangerke|work> it's not that much
[16:14] <rootfather> openhub is strange
[16:14] <rootfather> it things I'm best at C++ even though almost all of my commits are in .xml, .po and .txt files
[16:14] <Strangerke|work> yeah, I agree. particularly ther support.
[16:14] <rootfather> I only changed some cpp files with deep guidance of the devs here
[16:15] <rootfather> maybe 10 lines in total plus a few additions to the detection table which was mostly c&p :P
[16:15] <Strangerke|work> Well, I love the way they evaluate my cpp experience :)
[16:16] <Strangerke|work> C/Cpp experience: 13y full time
[16:16] <Strangerke|work> First Commit: 21-Apr-2009
[16:16] <rootfather> seems legit
[16:16] Action: Strangerke|work hugs Ohloh
[16:17] <Strangerke|work> so I'm doing 1 full time job during ... work hours. Then 2 full time jobs for ScummVM during night.
[16:17] <Strangerke|work> No wonder I'm tired in the morning :)
[16:18] <rootfather> Step 1. Open ScummVM fundraiser
[16:18] <rootfather> Step 2. ???
[16:18] <rootfather> Step 3. Profit!
[16:18] <rootfather> speaking of funding, have you ever thought to open a Patreon account?
[16:18] <Strangerke|work> 3. Profit, fame, hot chicks!
[16:18] <Strangerke|work> rootfather: yep
[16:18] <Strangerke|work> that made me laugh 10 minutes
[16:19] <Strangerke|work> then I switched to something else
[16:19] <rootfather> rofl
[16:19] <rootfather> define "something else"
[16:19] <Strangerke|work> in fact, I don't understand why people are giving money to patreon
[16:19] <rootfather> ...to pass it to the creators?
[16:20] <Strangerke|work> all the patreon accounts I saw so far are pure robbery
[16:20] <Strangerke|work> they get money for 10 minutes of work per day, and pretend they work full time
[16:20] <rootfather> Ubuntu MATE has a patreon acc too
[16:20] <Strangerke|work> 10 minutes of work PER MONTH I mean
[16:20] <rootfather> and my favorite youtube channel too I think
[16:21] <rootfather> Ubuntu MATE uses the money to give some money to some contributors
[16:23] <Strangerke|work> Well, I have a problem with being paid for working on ScummVM
[16:24] <Strangerke|work> If I get money for that, I would have to compare it to what I charge my customers
[16:25] <Strangerke|work> So I prefer not to get money than to think I work for 95% less
[16:26] <Strangerke|work> (and I don't think it's possible to get more than that from Patreon)
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[16:31] <RichieSams> hello everyone :)
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[16:32] <Strangerke|work> hi RichieSams
[16:33] <RichieSams> How's it going Strangerke|work?
[16:34] <Strangerke|work> Pretty good :) Waiting for test results on Gnap
[16:34] <Strangerke|work> What about you?
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[16:46] <GitHub148> [scummvm-web] rootfather pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/voLfX
[16:46] <GitHub148> scummvm-web/master 05c3838 Lothar Serra Mari: WEB/DE: Translate GNAP announcement to German
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[17:21] <WooShell> meow =^.^=
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[17:49] <rootfather> can somebody update the website maybe? :)
[17:49] <rootfather> hi waltervn
[17:50] <rootfather> hi WooShell
[17:50] <waltervn> hi
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[18:01] <GitHub121> [scummvm] rootfather pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/voLG1
[18:01] <GitHub121> scummvm/master bfb6b0d Lothar Serra Mari: ADL: Add POTFILES
[18:01] <GitHub121> scummvm/master fe65490 Lothar Serra Mari: I18N: Regenerate translations template from source code...
[18:01] <GitHub121> scummvm/master cc9185c Lothar Serra Mari: I18N/DE: Add translation for ADL engine options
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[18:03] <RichieSams> @Strangerke|work: Googling gnap
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[18:37] <criezy> good evening
[18:40] <rootfather> hi criezy
[18:44] <rootfather> I think taskbar integration in win10 doesn't work properly
[18:44] <rootfather> it should offer a list of the recently started engines on right-click on the taskbar icon, right?
[18:45] <rootfather> like the mac "taskbar" integration you added recently criezy
[18:47] <criezy> I used the Windows taskbar integration as a reference for what I could add on OS X.
[18:47] <criezy> But since only quickly looked at what it does without going into the details, and didn't check the behaviour of the software on Windows, I am not sure where the list of recent items is supposed to appear.
[18:47] <criezy> It might be in the Start menu maybe.
[18:48] <rootfather> it should be in the Start menu and on right-click in the taskbar item
[18:48] <rootfather> I'll fire up a Win 7 installation in a VM tomorrow
[18:48] <rootfather> and check how it should behave
[18:50] <criezy> Hopefully the issue is only on Windows 10. But that code is quite old and I would not be surprised if it is broken on recent (maybe even all) versions of Windows.
[18:54] <rootfather> I can only check with Win7 and 10
[18:54] <rootfather> maybe it's just the version checking that has problems
[18:55] <rootfather> I think I have it
[18:55] <rootfather> but I'll dig deeper into it tomorrow
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[18:58] <rootfather> versionInfo.dwMajorVersion = 6;
[18:58] <rootfather> versionInfo.dwMinorVersion = 1;
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[18:58] <rootfather> this won't work anymore because Win10 changed the build numbers
[18:59] <rootfather> Win 7 is 6.1, Win 8 is 6.2 and Win 8.1 is 6.3
[18:59] <rootfather> followed by Win 10 which is 1511 and will change due to the rolling release model
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[19:02] <rootfather> for Windows 10 values are
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[19:02] <rootfather> versionInfo.dwMajorVersion = 10;
[19:02] <rootfather> versionInfo.dwMajorVersion = 0;
[19:02] <rootfather> https://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/windows/desktop/ms724834.aspx
[19:03] <rootfather> now the quesion is if the detection of the Windows version fails or if theres a bug somewhere else
[19:03] <criezy> So the code checking that the version is greater or equal to 6.1 doesn't detect that 10.0 is greater? That looks like a bug to me.
[19:04] <rootfather> I *think* it's it... maybe MS changed something in the API... could be tons of other stuff
[19:04] <criezy> And I just ran through it with the debugger on my Win10 VM and indeed isWin7OrLater() is false.
[19:05] <rootfather> I currently try what happens if I change the values for dwMajor/MinorVersion
[19:05] <rootfather> yup
[19:05] <rootfather> that's it
[19:05] <rootfather> versionInfo.dwMajorVersion = 10;
[19:05] <rootfather> versionInfo.dwMinorVersion = 0;
[19:05] <rootfather> works on Win10
[19:09] <rootfather> maybe it is confused because MinorVersion is 0
[19:10] <rootfather> 6.1 is true, because major >=6 and minor >=1
[19:11] <rootfather> 10.0 is false, because major >=6 BUT minor <1
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[19:13] <rootfather> would be better to check against the BuildNumber instead of the dwMajorVersion value
[19:13] <rootfather> because the BuildNumber always increases, so checking for >= 7600 would be perfectly fine
[19:14] <rootfather> let me try this
[19:19] <rootfather> but using the versionInfo seems to be deprecated in Win10, MS now recommends using https://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/windows/desktop/dn424972%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[19:37] <rootfather> but the new versionhelpers are only included in Win 8.1 and above, so maybe we really should use the build number for detection instead of the major and the minor version
[19:40] <rootfather> and it seems that Microsoft broke the API in Win 8.x
[19:41] <rootfather> under Win 8.1 and 10, the API will always return 6.2 unless you write a special manifest for your application
[19:41] <rootfather> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms724833%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[19:41] <rootfather> * For applications that have been manifested for Windows 8.1 or Windows 10. Applications not manifested for Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 will return the Windows 8 OS version value (6.2). To manifest your applications for Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, refer to Targeting your application for Windows.
[19:41] <rootfather> but that shouldn't be the cause for the taskbar issue, as 6.2 would still be true
[19:42] <rootfather> I'll dig into that deeper tomorrow :)
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[19:54] <rootfather> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn481241%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[19:54] <rootfather> OMG
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[20:23] <GitHub185> [scummvm] sev- pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/voLiY
[20:23] <GitHub185> scummvm/master 29154f1 Eugene Sandulenko: SAGA: FUrther fix to potential buffer overflow
[20:23] <GitHub185> scummvm/master 86d6a46 Eugene Sandulenko: SCI: Plug memory leak
[20:23] <GitHub185> scummvm/master 060fafd Eugene Sandulenko: JANITORIAL: Fix warning spelling
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[21:05] <GitHub30> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/voLSr
[21:05] <GitHub30> scummvm/master 0887199 Eugene Sandulenko: SCUMM HE: Fix crashes in Moonbase replay
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[21:42] <GitHub198> [scummvm] Strangerke pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/voLdQ
[21:42] <GitHub198> scummvm/master 30b8030 Strangerke: GNAP: As WAIT_CURSOR isn't available in the exe, hide and show the cursor adequately
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[21:46] <SylvainTV> :)
[21:55] <snover> uch. ssci audio code is such a messy nightmare
[21:56] <snover> this is going to take a while still&
[21:59] <Strangerke> :/
[21:59] <snover> they really just did a whole lot of progressively hacking things on top of other things
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[22:35] <snover> and seemingly didnt even support stereo audio until sci3
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[23:56] <GitHub64> [scummvm] Kirben pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/votL8
[23:56] <GitHub64> scummvm/master 9925851 Kirben: WIN32: Fix taskbar detection under Windows 10 onwards.
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[23:59] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with 99258516: Failure: master-mingw-w64-cplusplus11, master-mingw-w32, master-mingw-w64
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