ScummVM IRC Log - 07 Dec 2014

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[04:09] <GitHub197> [scummvm] Kirben closed pull request #539: SCUMM: Maniac V0: Original Walk Code Implementation (master...master) http://git.io/XpMtPw
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[04:09] <GitHub42> [scummvm] Kirben pushed 5 new commits to master: http://git.io/zOPbeQ
[04:09] <GitHub42> scummvm/master 2dbd99d Robert Crossfield: SCUMM: Maniac V0: Implement the original Walk Code (to fix some anim glitches), fix opcode to use _moving correctly (as V0 is different)
[04:09] <GitHub42> scummvm/master 29d46e8 Robert Crossfield: SCUMM: Maniac V0: If boxes are neighbors, walk directly to the new box. Remove extra call to 'animateCostume'. Remove now unnecessary V0 walk calc functions
[04:09] <GitHub42> scummvm/master 814d9b1 Robert Crossfield: SCUMM: Maniac V0: Correctly handle 'slanted' walk-boxes, Add new variables to save-games, Bump the SaveGame Version number, remove obsolete V0 code in V2 functions
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[04:24] <GitHub45> [scummvm] Kirben pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/nSTUew
[04:24] <GitHub45> scummvm/master c9e6db6 Kirben: SCUMM: Correct spacing and warning in last Maniac V0 merge.
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[08:15] <waltervn> morning
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[08:18] <LordHoto> waltervn!
[08:18] <fuzzie> mph.
[08:18] <LordHoto> fuzzie!
[08:18] <fuzzie> why are you so cheerful?
[08:19] <LordHoto> last night in California
[08:19] <fuzzie> oh \o/
[08:19] <waltervn> yes, what did you do to the real LordHoto?
[08:19] <LordHoto> yay for being in cold Germany soon!
[08:19] <Strangerke> You're masochist
[08:20] <LordHoto> Strangerke: sounds more like you're talking about yourself right now :-P
[08:21] <Strangerke> For staying in Europe? Yeah, indeed. I must be masochist too
[08:21] <LordHoto> :-D
[08:22] <LordHoto> anyway
[08:47] <DrMcCoy> moo
[08:47] <LordHoto> DrMcCoy!
[08:47] <DrMcCoy> hoto.
[08:48] <LordHoto> pfff
[08:48] <DrMcCoy> :D
[08:58] <lewellyn> LordHoto: where in .ca.us are you?
[08:58] <LordHoto> Menlo Park right now
[08:59] <LordHoto> so, bay area
[08:59] <lewellyn> oh. i didn't realize you were very local to me right now. i would have invited you out for drinks
[08:59] <lewellyn> but bars close in about 30 minutes, so not tonight :(
[08:59] <LordHoto> yes, good old land of the free
[08:59] <LordHoto> :-P
[08:59] <LordHoto> where are you located?
[08:59] <lewellyn> san mateo
[09:00] <LordHoto> I see, only been driving through that with the Caltrain, never been there
[09:00] <lewellyn> and we only have 4 dry hours per day here. better than some places which have entire dry days.
[09:00] <lewellyn> i'm between belmont and hillsdale stations
[09:00] <LordHoto> I see
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[09:22] <GitHub30> [scummvm] segrax opened pull request #546: SCUMM: Maniac V0: Add support for D64 Demo Disk, Cleanup duplicate 'Talk... (master...V0_Demo) http://git.io/a0qflg
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[09:30] <Kirben> Suprising how people still keep finding more old game demos.
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[11:21] <ScummBot> Port build status changed with c9e6db65: Failure: master-amigaos4
[11:21] <m_kiewitz> it's broken!!
[11:23] <m_kiewitz> disc space?
[11:23] <[md5]> it has been broken for awhile
[11:24] <[md5]> binary limit
[11:28] <m_kiewitz> amigaos4 uses engine modules or is everything compiled into 1 big binary?
[11:33] <wjp> single binary
[11:34] <m_kiewitz> is it impossible to split it up?
[11:35] <fuzzie> yes
[11:36] <fuzzie> is the safe answer here :)
[11:36] <fuzzie> we should turn off some engines I guess
[11:36] <[md5]> it could be split into different executables, I supppose
[11:36] <[md5]> don't know if Amiga can run certain more CPU intensive games
[11:37] <fuzzie> this is 'modern' amiga, it can run anything we're likely to support
[11:37] <[md5]> ah, ok
[11:37] <[md5]> so, two separate builds then?
[11:43] <m_kiewitz> don't we already use plugins for several builds?
[11:43] <[md5]> in some platforms
[11:43] <m_kiewitz> so why not on amiga?
[11:43] <fuzzie> are you volunteering to implement plugins on amiga? :)
[11:43] <[md5]> trick question! :O
[11:43] <m_kiewitz> well i don't own one, if i owned one i probably would :P
[11:44] <fuzzie> amigaos4 is a closed mess, you can't work out how anything works
[11:44] <m_kiewitz> aren't there libraries of some sort on amiga?
[11:45] <m_kiewitz> sort of like DLL files on Windows?
[11:45] <LePhilousophe> does amigaos4 provides shared objects support ?
[11:45] <fuzzie> LePhilousophe: yes
[11:45] <LePhilousophe> ok
[11:45] <LePhilousophe> thanks
[11:46] <fuzzie> but this doesn't help at all :)
[11:46] <[md5]> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-G5bl3ReMt1w/VHcdpONq1GI/AAAAAAAAAXA/wlMqwO3rf6Y/s1600/we-need-you-to-volunteer-7.png
[11:48] <LePhilousophe> fuzzie: well if it hasn't this support, I suppose it wouldn't be possible to have plugins for this platform
[11:48] <fuzzie> sure it would be
[11:48] <m_kiewitz> http://www.amigacoding.de/index.php?topic=171.0
[11:48] <LePhilousophe> how ?
[11:48] <fuzzie> by doing it ourselves
[11:48] <fuzzie> we have an ELF loader in tree, see backends/plugins/elf/
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[11:49] <LePhilousophe> hum you are crazy :)
[11:49] <fuzzie> m_kiewitz: now look at how unhelpful they are about anything remotely complicated :-p
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[11:49] <m_kiewitz> :P
[11:51] <m_kiewitz> we have our own elf loader o_O
[11:52] <[md5]> you see, crazy is just a matter of perspective! :P
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[12:08] <WooShell> good meowning =^.^=
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[13:34] <GitHub34> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/T1YzDQ
[13:34] <GitHub34> scummvm/master 6ec077e Filippos Karapetis: AGI: Set the correct palette to use for each Amiga game...
[13:34] <GitHub34> scummvm/master b3e45cc Filippos Karapetis: AGI: Disable/remove unused code...
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[13:51] <GitHub16> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/Xrg_MQ
[13:51] <GitHub16> scummvm/master 815851e Filippos Karapetis: MADS: Remove unused reference to MADSEngine...
[13:51] <GitHub16> scummvm/master 2325183 Filippos Karapetis: NEVERHOOD: Remove duplicate defines...
[13:51] <GitHub16> scummvm/master 0e763f6 Filippos Karapetis: NEVERHOOD: Remove duplicate file hash definition
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[15:46] <[md5]> _sev|work!!!!
[15:46] <[md5]> hello :)
[15:46] <_sev|work> me
[15:46] <_sev|work> hi
[15:46] <_sev|work> I was in China, many things are blocked
[15:47] <[md5]> oh :(
[15:47] <[md5]> vacations or work? did you have a good time?
[15:48] <_sev|work> work
[15:48] <[md5]> ah, ok
[15:48] <[md5]> which city?
[15:48] <_sev|work> Shanghai
[15:48] <_sev|work> going there is quite expensive for a leisure
[15:48] <_sev|work> I mean the trip cost
[15:49] <[md5]> I can imagine
[15:50] <[md5]> is English sufficient to communicate?
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[15:51] <GitHub153> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/vTzqHw
[15:51] <GitHub153> scummvm/master fa9e2f7 Filippos Karapetis: SWORD25: Disable unused code...
[15:51] <GitHub153> scummvm/master bb120d0 Filippos Karapetis: COMMON: Disable unused string
[15:51] <GitHub153> scummvm/master f2511e5 Filippos Karapetis: IMAGE: Disable unused MJPEG array...
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[15:52] <GitHub161> [scummvm] bluegr closed pull request #529: Fix 'unused variable' warnings (master...fix-warnings) http://git.io/SnIpYA
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[15:52] <_sev|work> no, English is in absolute minority there
[15:53] <_sev|work> public transportation has some things translated into English
[15:53] <_sev|work> some of the more expensive shops also have somewhat English-speaking personnel
[15:54] <_sev|work> but other than that everything else is in Chinese, and it is very hard to find someone speaking English except foreigners of course
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[16:01] <L0ngcat> woo
[16:02] <L0ngcat> Sony and Double Fine is remaking DOTT
[16:02] <L0ngcat> https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/541314384484503553
[16:16] <[md5]> yeah, there was a discussion about DOTT yesterday
[16:16] <[md5]> shame that they won't release it for PS3 (although it's an older platform now), or XBox One
[16:27] <Strangerke> Will it be using a new engine? Or the good old one with improved assets?
[16:27] <dreammaster> Could they even improve the assets with the existing Scumm engine?
[16:28] <Strangerke> Didn't they do that for the SE games they released some years ago?
[16:28] <[md5]> they did, yeah
[16:29] <[md5]> so, theoretically they'll use the same engine
[16:29] <dreammaster> Ah
[16:29] <Strangerke> Very nice :D
[16:30] <[md5]> :)
[16:30] <[md5]> (that's just speculation, of course)
[16:30] <[md5]> cause the re-release of LSL1 used Unity
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[16:45] <DrMcCoy> Boah, that person on the forum with the colors...
[16:45] <DrMcCoy> Very annoying
[16:47] <DrMcCoy> [md5]: A friend of mine was at a conference in China. As soon as he left the airport, no English anywhere. Finding the right bus to take to the town he was staying in was an adventure
[16:49] <DrMcCoy> As was finding someone willing to change USD to Yen when the ATM didn't like his bank card
[16:49] <DrMcCoy> Well, he did find someone who offered to exchange USD for Yen 1:1...
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[16:59] <[md5]> DrMcCoy: ouch :/
[16:59] <[md5]> sounds like an adventure gone bad
[17:01] <Lightkey> Yen in China?
[17:01] <DrMcCoy> Errr, no, not yen
[17:01] <DrMcCoy> Sorry, mindfart
[17:04] <DrMcCoy> Yuan. Currency symbol is the same, IIRC?
[17:05] <DrMcCoy> Shows how much I know of both China and Japan
[17:09] <DrMcCoy> [md5]: Well, in the end, it worked out for him. Still, it was probably a mistake going there without a lot of research, I'd say
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[20:42] <m_kiewitz> sourceforge currently gives me: "The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.
[20:42] <m_kiewitz> Only a very limited set of project pages are available until the main website returns to service."
[20:43] <m_kiewitz> also the https certificate is invalid (for the wrong domain)
[20:44] <Strangerke> :/
[21:12] <DrMcCoy> https://twitter.com/sfnet_ops/status/541010685506121728 ...or not
[21:22] <WooShell> https://twitter.com/yosp/status/541314518928723968 - WTF?!
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[21:25] <Strangerke> WooShell: Yep :) Nice news, isn't it? :)
[21:26] <WooShell> Strangerke: depends on what "special edition" means. "we crosscompiled scummvm for the ps4"?
[21:27] <Strangerke> Hopefully they's work on Aaron Gilles' sources and will improve only the assets
[21:27] <Strangerke> fingers crossed
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[21:33] <clone2727> I'll be sticking with my original, thanks.
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[21:37] <somaen> Strangerke: Because those sources are ported to PS4/Vita?
[21:38] <Strangerke> Bah, as long as it's C++...
[21:40] <clone2727> Strangerke: I await the ScummVM PS4 and Vita ports now!
[21:46] <somaen> Strangerke: What, now Java?
[21:48] Action: Strangerke pukes
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[23:09] <GitHub70> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/e1aunA
[23:09] <GitHub70> scummvm/master ec1fdeb Filippos Karapetis: ZVISION: Implement several advanced engine features and ScummVM dialogs...
[23:09] <GitHub70> scummvm/master 9ebfa3e Filippos Karapetis: ZVISION: Add some spacing
[23:09] <GitHub70> scummvm/master a2eaf78 Filippos Karapetis: ZVISION: Remove unused code
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[23:25] <GitHub3> [scummvm] bluegr pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/xFSJ4g
[23:25] <GitHub3> scummvm/master ecb1979 Filippos Karapetis: ZVISION: Implement more advanced engine features...
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