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[06:14] Strangerke (~Strangerk@cable-85.28.84.13.coditel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [06:14] Nick change: Strangerke_ -> Strangerke [06:18] ChrisKeys (ChrisKeys@ip25053d66.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:18] ChrisKeys (ChrisKeys@ip25053d66.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #scummvm. [06:35] Littleboy (~littleboy@c-24-147-104-194.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:25] waltervn (~waltervn@82-171-142-149.ip.telfort.nl) joined #scummvm. [07:25] #scummvm: mode change '+o waltervn' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [07:32] jammm (~jam@106.221.139.165) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:32] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) joined #scummvm. [07:33] morning [07:41] Pegasus_Epsilon (pegasus@pimpninjas.org) joined #scummvm. [07:41] so i can't find anything about the mohawk plugin for android after about 1.5, anyone know what's up with that? [07:48] <_sev> Pegasus_Epsilon: are you looking for playing Myst? [07:48] yus [07:48] <_sev> it is supported in 1.9.0 only, which is not yet released [07:49] this is not what my googlings say, is it disabled in 1.8.1 on purpose? [07:49] <_sev> so you need to follow our news item, and download a daily build for Android and install the .apk by yourself [07:49] <_sev> it was not ready by 1.8.1 [07:50] <_sev> since it was not ready by 1.8.0 [07:50] i have 1.8.1pre208 installed, is this not sufficient? [07:50] <_sev> no [07:50] <_sev> you need 1.9.0 [07:51] 1.8.1pre208 is what the daily builds link gives me. [07:51] http://buildbot.scummvm.org/snapshots/master/android_x86-master-latest.zip [07:52] <_sev> let me see [07:52] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon redownloads to be 100% sure [07:53] ffs now it says 1.9 [07:54] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon tries myst [07:54] and up it loads. sorry for giving you grief, and thank you for beating me until i tried again. [07:54] <_sev> you are welcome [07:55] BTW, we are still interested in bug reports regarding Myst [07:55] <_sev> please report your success or failure during the gameplay [07:55] now if only it would stretch to fill the screen without distorting... [07:55] i have no bug reports with myst, i played it through on scummvm on my PC just recently [07:55] <_sev> it might be different on Android [07:55] Pegasus_Epsilon: great news [07:56] might be, i'll find out i'm sure [07:56] tell you what, though, i have a question about riven [07:56] some function key, i forget which, draws green boxes around everything [07:56] which is handy [07:56] but there are several green boxes that get drawn that don't actually seem to do anything [07:56] what's up with that? [07:57] (also the aspect ratio seems fine after some fiddling) [07:57] it's F4, IIRC to toggle drawing the hotspots [07:57] but lots of them do nothing [07:57] specifically the chair that teaches you the color symbols has a rivet on the bottom right that gets a box but does nothing [07:58] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon digs out a screenshot [07:58] I don't really know Riven, but it could be disabled hotspots, or like in Myst hotspots with no actions to change te shape of the hotspot blow it [07:58] *below [07:58] https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7383/27073305766_af88016ce4_o.png [07:59] i'm wondering if it's disabled dev code or something weird [07:59] it is a mystery that bothers me some [08:00] oh, also i noticed a graphical glitch in riven that i'm not sure if it's in the original, but i suspect it is [08:00] and the cutscene skip makes a lot of weird glitches, too [08:00] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon loads the riven wiki page [08:00] yeah, according to the code the green rects are just disabled hotspots [08:00] that page is anorexic :D [08:01] scripts probably enable them when needed [08:01] i'm fairly sure that rivet never ever does anything [08:02] well, Riven is not supported yet, so bugs are to be expected [08:02] not a complaint for you, more a complaint for cyan, because i want to know what they doooooo [08:02] or did [08:04] oh also, is there any plans to get realmyst working? i miss rime. [08:05] Dominus (~dominus@unaffiliated/dominus) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:05] Dominus (~dominus@unaffiliated/dominus) joined #scummvm. [08:07] nah, realMyst is 3D and uses a completely different engine [08:07] :( [08:07] an earlier version of the URU engine actually [08:07] which was opensourced by Cyan [08:07] yeah, i heard rumors it's getting thrown into another VM [08:08] but i have no idea how portable that'll be [08:08] <_sev> ResidualVM? [08:08] yep [08:08] <_sev> it is an offspring of ScummVM [08:09] is this where you tell me it'll never happen [08:09] the released code is really not portable, Windows specifics, DirectX, PhysX [08:09] oh, not the realmyst/uru/mystV engine [08:09] <_sev> some developers are even work for both projects [08:09] I don't think it will ever be in ResidualVM, it's too big of an engine [08:09] <_sev> bgK: why? [08:09] i mean how portable residual will be after crowbarring it in [08:10] just take a look at it, it's huge https://github.com/H-uru/Plasma [08:10] had a quick look earlier [08:11] moulagain in linux would be <3 [08:11] agreed [08:13] <_sev> bgK: nice half a million lines of code [08:14] <_sev> bgK: but I believe that an OSystem portablitity layer could be just added on top of it [08:16] it probably does work fine in wine, but that feels evil [08:16] i can get original myst working in windows 3.11 inside dosbox, but again, evil [08:16] oh hey, there's that visual bug in myst [08:16] _sev: it's probably possible, yes (although it uses Python scripts, and a lot of problematic dependencies) [08:17] fairly sure the python is server-side? [08:17] _sev: but such a huge project would probably deserve it's own team [08:17] nah, it's client side as well [08:17] hm. [08:19] a visual bug in Myst? [08:20] myst masterpiece, i suspect it's in the original [08:20] when the elevator door on the island in the mechanical age closes, the scenery outside the window moves with the window [08:20] most noticable on th bottom floor, because you can see a lamp through it [08:21] want a screenshot? [08:22] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon tries to snag one [08:22] the door also opens hilariously, so i'm fairly sure it's original [08:23] got it [08:23] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@catv-80-99-64-76.catv.broadband.hu) joined #scummvm. [08:23] #scummvm: mode change '+o uruk-hai' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:24] https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7281/27195534490_c728ca0c84_o.png [08:24] well, yes there is no additional art for the animations, so they had various tricks to make thing appear or disappear, it does not always look good [08:24] the two lamps visible outside the door are the same lamp [08:25] ah, yes, that's in the original as well [08:25] there is no transparency for game objects [08:25] so when the door slides into position the contents of the window as well [08:26] *slide as well [08:26] i feel like that wasn't present in the original version, but i probably never paid that much attention [08:28] it would just be one more quicktime movie to render to open and close the door on each floor properly (assuming they can play them in reverse) [08:28] seems like polish they missed :) [08:29] indeed [08:29] (and yes the QT movies are played in reverse sometimes in Myst) [08:35] damn, reminds me that Myst is still on my neverending "games I want to test and play" list :) [08:35] btw, how is the state of the Riven engine at the moment? [08:36] good [08:37] jammm (~jam@106.221.141.3) joined #scummvm. [08:37] i played about halfway through recently, didn't finish it [08:39] <_sev> rootfather: 95-98% [08:39] time for some stoneship [08:39] _sev nice [08:39] <_sev> rootfather: but you need to convince BgK to complete those 2% [08:40] okay, let me try: [08:40] jamm (~jam@unaffiliated/jamm) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [08:40] BgK - would you please? [08:40] bgK: and maybe plasma while you're at it <3 [08:40] http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/cat-sad-601x400.jpg [08:41] nice [08:45] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@catv-80-99-64-76.catv.broadband.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:45] slider controls in the planetarium are super floaty [08:45] levers on mechanical age are like of difficult to control, too [08:45] not game-breaking, just difficult [08:46] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@catv-80-99-64-76.catv.broadband.hu) joined #scummvm. [08:46] #scummvm: mode change '+o uruk-hai' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:48] :) I'll probably take a look at Riven the next time I need a break from TLJ [08:48] sounds great :) [08:49] just remove the "probably" [08:49] :P [08:50] heh :) [08:50] honestly 98% is all i ever expect from anything [08:51] Pegasus_Epsilon: you mean on Android, or in general? [08:52] (about the levers and stuff) [08:52] on android [08:52] seemed fine in linux [08:52] drag actions in general seem sticky and drifty [08:52] yeah, that was to be expected [08:52] WooShell (~Markus@ipbcc329ed.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #scummvm. [08:53] I'm not sure there is much that could be done about it [08:55] i honestly didn't expect a cursor full stop in the android version of scummvm [08:55] some games need it, i guess, but yeah [08:58] oooh, opening the door to one of the rooms on stoneship opens quite badly off to the left [08:58] screenshot? [08:58] sure [09:00] before https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7457/27373329932_b7aae3c974_o.png [09:00] after: https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7171/27196038300_62144a0961_o.png [09:00] uh, interesting [09:00] blue page room [09:00] good meowning =^.^= [09:07] blue page room, lights on [09:08] haven't checked lights off [09:08] red page room is fine both ways [09:09] Pegasus_Epsilon: I've not been able to reproduce the issue with Linux, can you? [09:10] nope, it looked just fine for me under linux [09:10] can you extract logs from you Android device? [09:11] from the system log thingy via adb, or do i need to fiddle with files on the device? [09:11] if so, can you reproduce the issue with the "script" debug flag on? [09:11] m_kiewitz (~m_kiewitz@scummvm/undead/m-kiewitz) joined #scummvm. [09:11] #scummvm: mode change '+o m_kiewitz' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [09:11] I don't know, adb, probably [09:12] logcat running, let's see if i can find that flag... [09:13] don't see a flag in the settings, where do i toggle that? [09:13] the flag is usually set either on the command line or through the debug console, I have no idea if you can do either of those things on Android [09:14] ...maybe... [09:14] let's find out [09:15] you access the debug console using the "CTRL+D" key combo, and then use the command "debugflag_enable script" [09:15] from the command line, it's "scummvm --debugflags=script" [09:18] this is what you are looking for in the log https://gist.github.com/bgK/a913e8c846db8566d02d388dae9b3ac3 [09:19] the script that gets executed when you open the door [09:19] girafe (~girafe@LFbn-1-8020-64.w90-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:23] GitHub118 (~GitHub118@192.30.252.42) joined #scummvm. 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[09:24] $ adb shell monkey -p org.scummvm.scummvm -c android.intent.category.LEANBACK_LAUNCHER 1 [09:24] that works to start it [09:26] works fine with lights off [09:26] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon goes to figure out how the hell to pass a flag to the program [09:28] i see literally nothing about passing flags to programs [09:30] oh, and now it's working fine [09:30] well, no [09:30] it's still off slightly [09:30] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon restarts and tries again [09:33] https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7333/27472984575_b5695b611b_o.png [09:33] off by much less, but it's done that twice with exit/restart of scummvm between [09:33] opened it in the dark in between [09:33] (between the first and second attempt) [09:34] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon lets his daughter have the tablet for a while [09:34] Pegasus_Epsilon: weird bug [09:35] yes. there's an android emulator, you know [09:35] i ran it for a while because boredom [09:35] saves you having to root a device [09:35] right, that might be simpler [09:38] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@catv-80-99-64-76.catv.broadband.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:38] found my install of it. now to dig through files and figure out where it came from. [09:44] https://developer.android.com/studio/run/emulator.html -- built on QEMU but they seem to downplay that [09:44] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@catv-80-99-64-76.catv.broadband.hu) joined #scummvm. [09:44] #scummvm: mode change '+o uruk-hai' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [09:45] you'll want to look under Sdk/tools, "emulator" in there is the thing that actually starts it [09:45] there's a tool in there to build virtual devices, i have some apks if you need them for things like the play store and stuff [09:48] ok, thanks for you help. I don't feel like setting that up right now. Can you please log an issue on our bugtracker so that we don't forget it's there? [09:49] uruk-hai (~uruk-hai@catv-80-99-64-76.catv.broadband.hu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:50] Action: Pegasus_Epsilon makes yet another account [09:53] GitHub57 (~GitHub57@192.30.252.34) joined #scummvm. 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[18:15] #scummvm: mode change '+o dreammaster' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [18:19] <_sev> that seems worked [18:21] :) [18:28] demonimin_ (~demonimin@unaffiliated/demonimin) left irc: Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. [18:29] demonimin (~demonimin@5.51.222.165) joined #scummvm. [18:29] demonimin (~demonimin@5.51.222.165) left irc: Changing host [18:29] demonimin (~demonimin@unaffiliated/demonimin) joined #scummvm. [18:46] girafe (~girafe@LFbn-1-8020-64.w90-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:50] Harekiet (~harekiet@kittens.harekiet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [18:52] Harekiet (~harekiet@kittens.harekiet.com) joined #scummvm. [19:02] #scummvm: mode change '+o Strangerke' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:03] abruanese (~a@c-73-224-87-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-nightly-20160225-9b31a077 - http://znc.in [19:14] Guys, Raziel^ played Gnap on AmigaOS. Not a single outstanding bug. 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[22:42] [scummvm-web] Strangerke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/voJzV [22:42] scummvm-web/master 2d19076 Strangerke: WEB: Add credits for Gnap [22:42] scummvm-web/master 1e3ca43 Strangerke: WEB: Add compatibility rank to Gnap (untested) [22:42] GitHub118 (GitHub118@192.30.252.40) left #scummvm. [22:43] I'll post a news item to announce a test period later, most likely in the evening (in 20 hours or so) [23:07] https://twitter.com/NetHistoryPod/status/739561330508767232 New Pod: 109. The History of Sierra Online with Laine Nooney [23:08] ChrisKeys (ChrisKeys@ip25053d66.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:09] ChrisKeys (ChrisKeys@ip25053d66.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #scummvm. [23:54] frankyboy_ (~franky@ppp91-78-195-201.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #scummvm. [00:00] --- Mon Jun 6 2016