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[06:40] Lightkey (~jonas@p200300764F45E40422CF30FFFE083718.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:48] waltervn (~walter@541B5492.cm-5-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #scummvm. [06:50] morning [06:51] let's see how my connection holds up today. I switched off ziggo wifispots a couple of days ago, I guess this is their revenge. [06:53] Lightkey (~jonas@p200300764F45E48422CF30FFFE083718.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #scummvm. [06:55] droid2727 (~droid2727@2600:1001:b01c:448b:a2b:67a9:b358:ec76) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:24] waltervn: will you be experiencing SCIENCE today? [07:26] (Het weekend van de wetenschap) [07:28] I guess your kids are maybe still a bit too young :p [07:28] Every day is a day for SCIENCE! [07:30] I was hoping for a "it's never too young to experience SCIENCE" :) [07:52] t0by (~t0by@host2-245-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #scummvm. [07:52] #scummvm: mode change '+v t0by' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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[08:28] as a kid I loved the Evoluon in Eindhoven, but unfortunately that's been repurposed [08:33] Went to the wots in Utrecht this week, lot's of nice sciency things there [08:34] t0by (~t0by@host2-245-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:34] I will experience SiENcE at least, that's the only one from here that will be in Mainz today, I think :-/ [08:36] I will experience cake today. That's nearly as good, right? [08:36] With a can of xyience? [08:38] No. [08:42] chkr (~chkr@p5DC4AE50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:44] chkr (~chkr@p5DC4B795.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #scummvm. [08:56] Action: wjp heads out. For SCIENCE! [09:10] it's dangerous [09:22] WooShell (woo@ipbcc0be82.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) joined #scummvm. [09:23] DOSFreak (~D0SFreak@108-61-55-68ch.openskytelcom.net) joined #scummvm. [09:26] good meowning =^.^= [09:55] sirlemonhead (~bduncan22@95.44.164.183) joined #scummvm. 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[17:56] erdic (erdic@unaffiliated/motley) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:57] erdic (~erdic@unaffiliated/motley) joined #scummvm. [18:34] GitHub156 (~GitHub156@192.30.252.39) joined #scummvm. [18:34] [scummvm] somaen pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/g2CwLg [18:34] scummvm/master 64695b5 Tobia Tesan: WINTERMUTE: Use SubLoopingAudio for music w/arbitrary loop points... [18:34] scummvm/master 2f4f7d4 Einar Johan Trøan Sømåen: Merge pull request #514 from tobiatesan/fix_audio_loop... [18:34] GitHub156 (GitHub156@192.30.252.39) left #scummvm. [18:34] GitHub102 (~GitHub102@192.30.252.34) joined #scummvm. [18:34] [scummvm] somaen closed pull request #514: WINTERMUTE: Use SubLoopingAudio for music w/arbitrary loop points (master...fix_audio_loop) http://git.io/F-oURA [18:34] GitHub102 (GitHub102@192.30.252.34) left #scummvm. [18:34] Odd that Github needs two bots for those two message-streams [18:35] Yes, more of that patented t0by goodness in master. Also more Maalox for somaen. [18:35] Maalox? [18:35] "Maalox is a brand name antacid containing Aluminium hydroxide and Magnesium hydroxide to neutralize or reduce stomach acid." [18:37] Joke: nervousness, despair, being generally miserable => stomach acidity => maalox [18:38] As in [18:38] t0by makes somaen miserable => somaen gets stomach acidity => somaen eats maalox. [18:38] I swear, it's funny in Italian. [18:39] I was old and grumpy before I was legally allowed to drive. [18:39] or indeed get a drivers license. [18:40] t0by: Keep working on those jokes :P [18:40] I was old and grumpy before I was legally allowed to drive. <===Say what you want but this would be a perfect tagline for a movie poster. [18:40] I would go see it. [18:40] clone2727, no, actually it's a rather standard Italian joke. [18:41] "x is gonna be eating Maalox like candy" to mean that something, somebody is bothering x. [18:41] Not /that/ standard, but somewhat idiomatic. 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[19:29] #scummvm: mode change '+v t0by' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [19:34] and all my plans for the evening just went down the drain. [19:34] woe is me. [19:34] well, that means I can hack on scummvm. [19:42] vbt (vberthelo@mry91-1-82-229-157-158.fbx.proxad.net) left #scummvm. [20:01] Cheeseness (~cheesenes@ppp118-208-233-89.lns20.hba2.internode.on.net) joined #scummvm. [20:10] droid2727 (~droid2727@2600:1001:b007:1938:d2a9:6dcf:1d7c:6e18) joined #scummvm. [20:10] #scummvm: mode change '+o droid2727' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:13] SimSaw (~SimSaw@HSI-KBW-046-005-254-033.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) joined #scummvm. [20:13] #scummvm: mode change '+v SimSaw' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:19] GitHub160 (~GitHub160@192.30.252.36) joined #scummvm. [20:19] [scummvm] tobiatesan opened pull request #517: CONFIGURE/UNITY: Check for Glib version and suppress warnings in unity-taskbar.cpp (master...fix_glib) http://git.io/5R9zPA [20:19] GitHub160 (GitHub160@192.30.252.36) left #scummvm. [20:22] frankyboy_ (~franky@ppp91-77-214-226.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:22] demonimin_ (~demonimin@unaffiliated/demonimin) joined #scummvm. [20:24] demonimin (~demonimin@unaffiliated/demonimin) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:39] fuzzie, are you there and have a second by any chance? [20:42] hello [20:44] Hey. [20:45] Tonight I'm fainlly having another look at the screaming cat bug in WME, the one where sounds silence each other [20:45] *finally [20:46] Given that I seem to hit g_system->getMixer()->playStream(...) fine, what were you suggesting to keep an eye on? [20:47] MrSiggler (~textual@blk-89-213-45.eastlink.ca) joined #scummvm. [20:48] does this happen on master? [20:49] yup [20:50] In particular you were suggesting to check if the sound was played "to the end" [20:50] What should I be looking for? SomethingSomethingAudioStream::endOfdata()? [20:51] it's not so useful since you're disposing the streams immediately [20:51] h00ligan (~User@ip72.net176.n37.ru) joined #scummvm. [20:51] #scummvm: mode change '+o h00ligan' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [20:52] h00ligan (~User@ip72.net176.n37.ru) left irc: Client Quit [20:52] where did you try sprinkling debugs already? [20:53] I would be suspicious of the WME side generally, and stick warning()s in all the BaseSoundBuffer calls, printing 'this' or something [20:54] BaseSoundBuffer, mostly, but everythibng looks ok. [20:54] ajax16384 (~User@ip63.net176.n37.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:54] I'd be suspicious of the WME side as well [20:55] but I get to BaseSoundBuffer::play [20:55] and it calls getMixer()->playStream(..) [20:55] yes [20:55] and everything still looks hunky dory, [20:55] and does something then immediately call stop() on another stream for example? [20:55] As I said before, the sound part of WME is probably the thing I spent the least time of, so do be suspicious about it [20:55] by all means [20:56] HA. [20:57] A sec. [20:57] I think I just found out something weird. [20:58] and does something then immediately call stop() on another stream for example? ===>being the stupid head I am it didn't occur to me to look at BaseSoundBuffer::stop() [20:58] and /looks like/ it's being called an abnormally large number of times [20:59] so I'll come back in a few minutes after you ran around in circles a bit [21:00] Hi killAllSounds() [21:00] you seem like a nice chap [21:05] BaseSprite::reset() is called an awful lot. That, in turn, calls killAllSounds(). Which does exactly what it says on the can. [21:06] Looks like that line is very very very old [21:07] Except for a few formatting commits, it comes directly from b602b51... WINTERMUTE: Add the files for the rest of the B-classes. [21:08] sirlemonhead (bduncan22@95.44.164.183) left #scummvm. [21:11] This is from the original engine. [21:11] At this point I suspect reset() shouldn't be called /that/ much. [21:11] Let me see who's doing that. [21:15] Oh, well. [21:16] bool UIButton::display calls that (that's from the original) and UIButton::display gets called A LOT. [21:16] This could mean that other sounds get, less noticeably, killed BTW. [21:17] LordHoto (~johannes@unaffiliated/lordhoto) joined #scummvm. [21:17] #scummvm: mode change '+o LordHoto' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [21:19] except that this does not seem consistent with what I'm hearing. [21:19] No, it is. [21:21] I have no idea about the context here, but shouldn't those reset calls only affect sounds connected to these specific button sprites? [21:21] Exactly [21:22] No, it is. <=== it occurred to me around here [21:23] Okay [21:23] brace yourselves [21:23] Brace yourselves, everybody. [21:23] I opened the game's install directory [21:23] replaced game.exe with a recent one [21:24] and it behaves /exactly/ like scummvm [21:24] Aka: looks like 5MA was made when WME itself handled this differently. [21:25] you made it sound like killAllSounds was killing allll sounds [21:25] somaen made it sound like that, not me :P [21:25] well, no, Mnemonic :P [21:25] hence my comment, yes [21:25] it's KillAllSounds in wme, indeed [21:26] Well [21:26] but specifically it's CBSprite::KillAllSounds and it just calls stop() on any sounds attached to *frames of that sprite* :) [21:26] I'm gonna look at the history of that on the WME repo, just to get the idea. [21:27] Anyway, this opens another can of worms, I fear [21:27] is there a wme repo nowadays? [21:27] We are looking at a specific interpreter version that behaves differently from another (and from trunk) [21:27] How do we handle something like that? [21:27] usually by adding flags to the AD entries [21:28] fuzzie: https://bitbucket.org/MnemonicWME [21:28] t0by: none of those are useful, I thought? [21:29] afaik https://bitbucket.org/MnemonicWME/wme1 /is/ the WME repo [21:29] it's useless for this then :) [21:29] nobody seems to be working much on that, though, but I guess that's because Mnemonic and his gang are busy on wme2. [21:29] No, I mean, AFAIK that /is/ WME [21:30] yes, but it doesn't have the history [21:30] Oh shoot. [21:31] Oh well [21:31] I'm gonna pester Mnemonic on his chan [21:31] which interpreter version does it come with [21:31] yes ok :) [21:31] WME 1.8.6 added "FIX: Sprite.Reset() method now also stops all sounds being played by the sprite." [21:31] so probably this is simply a version difference and you'll have to add a workaround flag or some kind. [21:32] (How do I find version?) [21:32] well I usually do 'strings -a -e l binary.exe', go to bottom [21:32] <fuzzie> WME 1.8.6 added "FIX: Sprite.Reset() method now also stops all sounds being played by the sprite." <=== Which I guess with P=0.8 is what we're looking at [21:33] but what I mean there is "it's in the resources", so you can right-click in explorer or whatever one does [21:33] Irgh, weird color codes [21:33] ny00123 (~ny00123@bzq-79-182-27-202.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:37] Eh, on linux atm. [21:37] But I'll have a look later from a windows machine\ [21:37] (which may or may not be mine after a reboot) [21:37] strings does not /seem/ to provide the info [21:38] that or I don't know what to grep [21:47] SimSaw (~SimSaw@HSI-KBW-046-005-254-033.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) left irc: [21:48] Oh, well [21:48] I'll get my hands dirty with detection tomorrow [21:48] I think case almost closed anyway [21:48] thanks a whole lot fuzzie [21:49] If you hadn't suggested to see what was calling stop() it would have never occurred to me [21:49] [what|if] [21:49] Nite folks [21:50] icanntspell (~BenCastri@mail.bencastricum.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:57] eh [22:01] t0by (~t0by@host165-42-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:07] Nick change: servus -> SugarCube [22:21] Kirben (Kirben@c110-22-51-140.brasd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined #scummvm. [22:21] #scummvm: mode change '+o Kirben' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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