ScummVM IRC Log - 03 Apr 2014

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[06:54] <waltervn> morning
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[07:43] <Strangerke|work> hi guys
[07:44] <Raziel^> hi Strangerke
[07:48] <Endy> Yo Strangerke|work
[07:51] <Strangerke|work> Hey, Endy! :)
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[08:28] <madmoose> Hey hey hey!
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[09:39] <Strangerke|work> DrMcCoy: For info, there are currently 3 copies of Bargon Attack on ebay
[09:39] <Strangerke|work> from 100eur to 250eur... It's a bit high, but I'm tempted
[09:40] <DrMcCoy> wtf
[09:40] <DrMcCoy> That's stupid
[09:40] <DrMcCoy> Endy! :)
[09:41] <Strangerke|work> I don't own yet a Bargon box
[09:41] <Strangerke|work> only King of Adventures sets
[09:42] <DrMcCoy> I see only 2 on ebay. Both in Spanish
[09:43] <DrMcCoy> I also see a copy of "Coblins 3"
[09:43] <Strangerke|work> http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/BARGON-ATTACK-/121309289452?pt=FR_Jeux_Vid%C3%A9o&hash=item1c3e98dbec&_uhb=1
[09:44] <DrMcCoy> A readable picture of the copy protection thing. Smart.
[09:45] <Strangerke|work> only the first page though
[09:57] <Strangerke|work> DrMcCoy: http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/AMIGA-AVENTURAS-FREEDOM-20-000-LEGUAS-VIAJE-SUB-SKIDOO-RAIDERS-COKTEL-SYSTEM-4-/231054905238?pt=ES_Videojuegos&hash=item35cbf20f96&_uhb=1
[09:58] <Strangerke|work> :D
[09:59] <Strangerke|work> Arf, Fascination CD for 255eur :/
[09:59] <DrMcCoy> Why are there so much Spanish Coktel Vision games on ebay? :P
[09:59] <DrMcCoy> many*
[10:00] <LordHoto> DrMcCoy: Maybe they need to get rid of them to preserve their mental health? :-P
[10:00] <Strangerke|work> because they are super-expensive.
[10:01] <Strangerke|work> So nobody buy that
[10:01] <Strangerke|work> Same for the greek sellers
[10:01] <Strangerke|work> most of the games I find from spanish ans greek sellers are above 150 eur
[10:01] <Strangerke|work> even I don't spend so much on retrogaming... they are crazy.
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[14:34] <Strangerke|work> eriktorbjorn: ... Do you own Fox Hunt? I'm currently hesitating to buy it, I'd like to look at its exe file
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[16:24] <WooShell> meow =^.^=
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[17:25] <Aftertaste> are the resource files, such as RESMAP.000 encrypted ?
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[20:18] <DrMcCoy> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1649838104/serpent-in-the-staglands RPG, supposedly a throwback to games like Baldur's Gate
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[20:24] <GitHub196> [scummvm] sev- pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/BSZzXA
[20:24] <GitHub196> scummvm/master 2657322 Eugene Sandulenko: FULLPIPE: Implement sceneHandler29_winArcade()
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[21:44] <Brutus_B> Hi.
[21:45] <L0ngcat> hi
[21:45] <Brutus_B> Having an issue with ScummVM 1.6.0 for OS X that I didn't have on previous versions.
[21:46] <Brutus_B> Was hoping maybe someone could help me out.
[21:46] <LordHoto> That depends.
[21:47] <Brutus_B> On?
[21:47] <LordHoto> Exactly.
[21:47] <wjp> the issue :-)
[21:48] <wjp> if you let it depend on our mind-reading skills, it'll be unlikely :-)
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[21:50] Action: DrMcCoy reads Brutus_B's mind
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[21:50] <DrMcCoy> Brutus_B: Yes, the cat doesn't respect you.
[21:50] <Brutus_B> Well, when trying to play Secret of Monkey Island, I get the LucasFilm Games screen for a split second and ScummVM crashes. On Monkey Island 2, I get a message saying "The preferred aduio device 'MT-32 Emulator' cannot be used. See log file for more information. Attempting to fall back to the next available device..." When I click OK, it crashes ag
[21:50] <Brutus_B> ain.
[21:51] <Brutus_B> It also does that for Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.
[21:51] <wjp> try resetting the audio settings back to their defaults
[21:52] <Brutus_B> They all say default.
[21:53] <Brutus_B> Ok, not Legend of Kyrandia gives me that message, but when I click OK it doesn't crash.
[21:53] <Brutus_B> now*
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[21:54] <wjp> it might be easiest to restart from an empty config file
[21:54] <wjp> but make sure you have "Don't use Roland MT-32 music" set in the MT-32 tab
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[21:58] <Brutus_B> Damn. Still crashes.
[21:59] <Brutus_B> Well, SoMI still crashes.
[21:59] <wjp> which message?
[21:59] <wjp> it should be telling you what isn't working
[21:59] <Brutus_B> No Message.
[22:00] <Brutus_B> I get the LucasFilm Gamesm screen for a split second then it crashes.
[22:00] <Brutus_B> Day of the Tentacle plays fine.
[22:01] <wjp> I have to go, but I'd suggest starting from a fresh config file
[22:01] <wjp> good night
[22:02] <Brutus_B> I tried that.
[22:02] <Brutus_B> Thanks for the help.
[22:03] <somaen> Did it help?
[22:03] <Brutus_B> No.
[22:04] <droid2727> try AdLib?
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[22:06] <Brutus_B> I might not be doing it right, but if I did, then it didn't work.
[22:06] <somaen> Did you remove ~/Library/Preferences/ScummVM Preferences ?
[22:06] <Brutus_B> Yeah
[22:06] <Brutus_B> It started up fresh. Added three games, one works.
[22:08] <somaen> and 1.5.0 works?
[22:10] <Brutus_B> Yup.
[22:11] <Brutus_B> But the audio doesn't play now. Gotta reverse what I did.
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[22:12] <Brutus_B> Ok. Yeah 1.5.0 plays it fine with audio.
[22:13] <droid2727> did you try AdLib in 1.6.0?
[22:14] <droid2727> is it the CD version of MI1?
[22:14] <droid2727> does CoreAudio as output work?
[22:14] <Brutus_B> Under Options -> Audio -> Preferred Device?
[22:15] <Brutus_B> I believe this is the disk version.
[22:15] <droid2727> believe? how do you not know?
[22:16] <Brutus_B> Because I didn't put it on my computer recently.
[22:16] <Brutus_B> Let me grab the box.
[22:17] <Brutus_B> Floppies
[22:18] <droid2727> either under that option or the one in edit game
[22:18] <Brutus_B> Was there a CD version for Mac?
[22:18] <Brutus_B> I tried both and nothing.
[22:18] <droid2727> No
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[22:18] <droid2727> wait
[22:19] <droid2727> this is the mac version?
[22:19] <Brutus_B> yup
[22:19] <droid2727> this kind of detail goes a long way in helping diagnose problems
[22:19] <droid2727> extract the iMuse Setups data off the disks properly
[22:20] <droid2727> we added proper music support for the 68k Mac versions
[22:20] <Brutus_B> Well, I said ScummVM was for Mac. Guess I should have said all the games in Scumm were for Mac too, except Curse of Monkey Island
[22:20] <LordHoto> Using Mac versions of the games is pretty uncommon.
[22:20] <Brutus_B> Problem. I no longer have a floppy drive.
[22:21] <LordHoto> Yes, that's a problem. Unfortunately you'll need one.
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[22:21] <Brutus_B> What about Fate of Atlantis? I have the CD of that.
[22:22] <LordHoto> If you copy over the "iMuse Setup" datafile correctly from the CD, Fate of Atlantis will work.
[22:22] <droid2727> since you're on a mac, a simple copy will do
[22:23] <LordHoto> err "iMuse Setups"
[22:23] <Brutus_B> So I would have to do this for every game for 1.6.0?
[22:24] <droid2727> only v5 Mac SCUMM games
[22:24] <droid2727> and Loom
[22:24] <LordHoto> and Monkey Island 1
[22:25] <Brutus_B> Loom worked up until I had to select my Proficiency Level.
[22:25] <Brutus_B> I guess I'll stick to 1.5.0 then and save myself a headache.
[22:25] <Brutus_B> Thanks for all the help guys. I appreciate it.
[22:25] <LordHoto> The filenames for Loom and Monkey Island 1 are different.
[22:25] <LordHoto> should all be covered up on here though: http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Datafiles
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[22:26] <Brutus_B> hmm, wait a sec.
[22:27] <Brutus_B> Looking in my SoMI folder, I have those files.
[22:27] <droid2727> LordHoto: MI1 Mac *is* v5
[22:27] <LordHoto> Did you copy them over on a Mac?
[22:28] <Brutus_B> Yeah. I'm looking at them now.
[22:28] <LordHoto> droid2727: whatever :-P
[22:28] <droid2727> run "ls -l /path/to/iMuse\ Setups/..namedfork/rsrc"
[22:29] <Brutus_B> Monkey Island, MONKEY1.000, MONKEY1.001
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[22:30] <droid2727> do it on the Monkey Island file then
[22:34] <Brutus_B> SHould there be an iMuse Setup file in my Monkey Island folder?
[22:34] <droid2727> no
[22:34] <droid2727> that's for MI2/Indy4
[22:34] <Brutus_B> Ok, cause MI2 has it.
[22:35] <LordHoto> Try to run the command droid2727 mentioned on it.
[22:35] <Brutus_B> I don't get why MI works in 1.5.0 but not 1.6.0
[22:35] <LordHoto> Because MI doesn't have Mac sound support in 1.5.0 but it does in 1.6.0.
[22:37] <LordHoto> At any rate, if you would run the command, it will be helpful.
[22:37] <Brutus_B> This is all over my head.
[22:38] <droid2727> go to Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal
[22:38] <droid2727> type "ls -l " (with trailing space)
[22:39] <droid2727> drag the iMuse Setups file into the window
[22:39] <Brutus_B> The MI2 file?
[22:39] <droid2727> then add "/..namedfork/rsrc" at the end
[22:39] <droid2727> sure
[22:40] <droid2727> make sure no space before ..namedfork
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[22:42] <Brutus_B> No such file or directory. Guess I'm doing something wrong.
[22:42] <droid2727> paste the command
[22:43] <Brutus_B> wait, i guess i did do something wrong
[22:44] <Brutus_B> I get this right after -rwxrwxrwx
[22:45] <Brutus_B> 1 Brutus staff 0 Oct 30 1992 /Users/Brutus/Desktop/iMuse Setups/..namedfork/rsrc
[22:45] <droid2727> yes, means you didn't copy it right
[22:45] <droid2727> did you copy this on a mac originally?
[22:45] <Brutus_B> ls -l /Users/Brutus/Desktop/iMuse\ Setups/..namedfork/rsrc
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[22:45] <Brutus_B> Yep
[22:46] <LordHoto> You have that file on your desktop?
[22:46] <Brutus_B> Yeah
[22:46] <Brutus_B> I moved it there
[22:47] <LordHoto> Looks like it isn't copied correctly and that doesn't make any sense when you copied it on a Mac from your floppies.
[22:47] <Brutus_B> So I'm gonna have to do a recopy?
[22:48] <Brutus_B> And Loom too?
[22:48] <LordHoto> Yes.
[22:48] <Brutus_B> crap
[22:49] <Brutus_B> Gotta track down a floppy drive somewhere.
[22:49] <Brutus_B> Is it as simple as just pulling the files off the disks?
[22:49] <LordHoto> I'm pretty sure there's still floppy drives you can connect by USB around.
[22:49] <Brutus_B> Like I said, I did this years ago. Memory is foggy.
[22:49] <LordHoto> If you are on a Mac, yes.
[22:50] <Brutus_B> I do remember having a situation where there were hidden files. I think that was Monkey Island.
[22:52] <LordHoto> I don't think any of these files were hidden.
[22:53] <Brutus_B> This was years ago, but I haven't had any problems playing my games up until now so I haven't had a reason to dig them out again.
[22:54] <LordHoto> Yes, as I said older versions of ScummVM simply didn't implement proper audio output.
[22:54] <LordHoto> Which is something, what many people who played the Mac versions long ago bothered.
[22:54] <LordHoto> But starting with 1.6.0 we added support for it, so it will fail when you don't copy the files over properly.
[22:54] <LordHoto> Since you're on a Mac it's trivial to copy over the files.
[22:56] <Brutus_B> Regarding Fate of Atlantis, on that Data Files page it says I need MONSTER.SOU, ATLANTIS.000, ATLANTIS.001 and iMuse Setups. I have all but iMuse Setups.
[22:57] <Brutus_B> That should be on the CD, no?
[23:03] <droid2727> yes
[23:03] <droid2727> did you initially copy the files off the media on a Mac?
[23:04] <Brutus_B> I have the disc in my Mac now and I don't see the file at all.
[23:05] <Brutus_B> Ah, I don't see the file because it's hidden.
[23:05] <Brutus_B> sonofa...
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[23:14] <Brutus_B> I feel like doing the same thing.
[23:14] <droid2727> you still haven't answered my question :)
[23:15] <Brutus_B> I missed it.
[23:15] <Brutus_B> Sorry. What'd you ask?
[23:15] <Brutus_B> Oh, yeah I copied it on a Mac originally.
[23:16] <Brutus_B> This could have been OS9 now that I think of it. Might have been that long ago.
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[23:23] <Brutus_B> I wonder if I'm gonna have to extract it on an OS9 computer because iMuse Setups won't stay visible.
[23:25] <droid2727> i did it on os x just fine
[23:25] <droid2727> either show all hidden files or copy it via the terminal
[23:29] <Brutus_B> Yeah I showed all hidden files, but I'd rather not leave it like that. I had a program that made files permanently visible, but that was back in the day.
[23:29] <Brutus_B> Can't remember the name.
[23:31] <droid2727> "defaults write com.Apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles true"
[23:31] <droid2727> followed by a finder restart
[23:32] <Brutus_B> Yeah, I did that.
[23:32] <Brutus_B> I just want to make that one file visible though, not all files.
[23:33] <Brutus_B> Found a program that does it, but it's for Mavericks. I'll have to upgrade.
[23:34] <Brutus_B> Got it.
[23:35] <Brutus_B> chflags nohidden /Path/to/file
[23:35] <droid2727> or just do the command for removing the hidden bit?
[23:35] <droid2727> yes
[23:35] <Brutus_B> That will do it for just one file.
[23:35] <Brutus_B> Took me half an hour to find that, heh.
[23:36] <droid2727> I only remember the finder setting command from memory ;)
[23:37] <Brutus_B> Ok, so now FoA plays, but I get the MT-32 message before it plays.
[23:38] <droid2727> you shouldn't, it's not using it
[23:38] <Brutus_B> What would be the best option. Keep it on "Don't use Roland MT-32"?
[23:40] <droid2727> I'm not sure. I default everything to AdLib ;)
[23:40] <Brutus_B> MI2 still doesn't play. FoA iMuse has an icon. MI2 iMuse's icon is that black screen deal.
[23:40] <Brutus_B> Ok, I'll try that.
[23:41] <droid2727> MI2 needs its iMuse Setups file
[23:41] <Brutus_B> Yeah, I have one.
[23:41] <Brutus_B> But there's no icon for it. Just that black terminal-like icon
[23:41] <Brutus_B> So I'm thinking it didn't copy correct.
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